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Condo Hotel financing..any advice

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Just took a beach condo hotel in trade for a vacant SFR.  I tried to get Wells Fargo to finance.  They appraised for 129k but only later balked at unit being a "condo hotel"  I put 50k down and in the end got owner financing at 7.5%.  Any possibility of finding someone who would finance this as a second home?
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January 04 2009 - Silverton
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My FICO is high 700s low 800s and debt to equity is around 19%.  You don't get a better client.  Banks just don't want any risk whatsoever now.  The owner told me the place was a condo and then Wells told me after I paid for the appraisal it was a condo hotel and they would not finance it despite my large down payment.  I spoke with a local lender who told me the same and offered 9.5% financing with points.  I guess I will just pay the thing off or sell partial ownership to some friends. 

Hope the banks are enjoying MY tax dollars because I sure am not.
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January 06 2009
Just as an FYI, even if you find a conforming lender who does not view the property as a condotel, you are still looking at it being treated as an Investment property, not a second home.
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January 05 2009
Hi again - did they give you any reasons why you didn't qualify for standard 2nd home financing or why rates were so high?  I just ran a guesstimated scenario for your situation through my pricing engine and am seeing rates fairly close to your desired rate this morning with no points - again, I was just guessing at your credit scores and debt to income ratios, etc. so there are likely factors I'm not aware of.....but sounds like it would be worth another opinion.

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January 05 2009
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Thanks Kelly,

I did check with a local mortgage lender and was offered 9.5% financing with some points.  Owner offered 7.5% with no points and minimal fees.  I went with owner.  If I could get standard  second home financing at 5% or so it would be worth it.
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January 05 2009

Hi - the big banks usually have one set of loans they specialize in - all with "cookie cutter" rules that don't seem to have any flexibility or work in cases with anything unusual.  Going through a good Mortgage Broker will give you alot more options with alot more flexibility and I would recommend you checking out that resource.

If it does turn out to be a loan you still can't get to fly with a mortgage broker, then I would check with my hard money resource - her name is Amarena Warnock and I know she was working on a loan for another condo hotel down at the beach recently so may be a wealth of info for you.  Her number is 503-422-0413.

Hope that helps.

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