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Well after 5 counteroffers sellers accepted my offer of 139000 they are paying 6000 in closing and buying my rate down which is another 1800. Zillow says the home is worth 172000. Is this real accurate the 172000? And do you think that the bottom will get anywhere close to 139000?oh I got a home warranty also in the deal . Let me know what you guys think of my deal. I'm locked in at 5%
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December 12 2008 - US

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Well I don't know where the house is so can't tell. The terms as you describe seem very good BUT... If its a 60k neighborhood, then no. if its a 150k+ neighborhood then maybe. Zillow is not very accurate depending on where you are--I think it tells you how reliable the numbers are by state--but even then you can't trust it for specifics. Its more of a feel good/feel bad thing.

Your best bet, and what you should do before the offer is made is find every house that has sold within a mile for the past 3- 6 months and look at those prices/size of house compared to the house you're buying. and if you're really smart, look at everything that didn't sell to see if it was price or some other reason. then assume prices will go lower and negotiate down from there.
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December 12 2008
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are you sure your bank is going to allow you all that credit at closing? I was told, no matter what I negotiate with the seller, the bank will not allow them to give us more than 3% of the purchanse price at closing (in the form of seller credits). Your credits total about 5.6% of the purchase price. You might want to ask your loan officer about this before you proceed much further.

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December 12 2008
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Slick makes a good point. My parents just sold their second home up in Maine and they were giving a lot of credits towards closing--something similar to the numbers above except the price was $155k. The bank wouldn't allow so much from the seller towards closing but instead of lowering the sales price (so my parents ended up with the same profit) and making the buyers pay more towards closing, they raised the price of the house so the percentage worked for the bank. My parents ended up with an extra $5000 at closing which is great but sounds a little crazy to me. I guess the buyers had no extra money at all for closing costs and they wanted the house.
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December 12 2008
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Anytime you buy a house for $139,000, you get a VERY GOOD deal. 

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December 12 2008
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you know that's not true at all...why do you keep posting such nonsense?

 

There are thousands of houses across the country that would be a VERY BAD deal at $139,000.

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December 12 2008
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Its only a good deal if you want it to be . Buyers remorse usually kicks in for about 48 hours after closing and then you will probably sit down with a cup of coffee and give yourself kudos for doing so well in this deal. Buy yourself something nice for the house and relax!

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December 12 2008
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alpine, I have several hundred very good deals for you! 3/2 homes WAY under 100k, heck even under $40k!!!! I'll hook you up friend!

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December 12 2008
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How many houses in Detroit could you get for 139k?

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December 12 2008
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No need to go to Phoenix for the deals, I have a couple of single family rentals right here in North Jersey, where prices are steadfast and high (according to some) that are only worth about $120k. I'd be happy to sell them for $139k. any takers?

Q. How many houses in Detroit could you get for 139k?
A. All of them.
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December 12 2008
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Some more info it's 1868 sq ft all the schools are "A" schools top in the county. Here's the address if you guys want to take a look and let me know 1009 cameo crest lane ,valrico,fl ,33596
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December 12 2008

The real test to use in deciding if you got a deal is to look at the bank appraisal that you paid for to get your financing approved.  If the house appraised above $139,000 then you got a deal.  The appraisal is the only true financial basis you can use to determine value at the time of your purchase.  As long as we are seeing foreclosures, short sales and desperate sellers who are taking a loss and selling below market value,  properties will continue to drop and therefore appraise for less.  By buying a home for less than market value you have just lowered the property values in your new neighborhood.  Real estate runs in cycles as does everything else.  We have no idea how long this one will take to turn around.  Right now I am working with several buyers and everyone is looking for a deal.  I respect that and will help them find them.  But it is hard to get a "deal" and then expect your new house to be worth more when in fact you have just devalued it.  Confusing - but true.   

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December 12 2008

your terms are very good,  I am not familiar with the particular area that you are buying in , I would suggest talk to a realtor, to give you comparable sales for the last 6 months, and in the past two years, that way you will no what is going on in that market, also find out how many homes are for sale in the neighborhood ,   and how long is it taking to sell,  if the price is right and the neighberhood has demand , than a property should sell in max 15 days ...

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December 12 2008
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Mr Shahe:  "then a property should sell in max 15 days....".   Hmmm, I notice one of your postings on Zillow has been on zillow for close to 300 days!

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December 12 2008

To find the average value of homes in your area, ask your realtor to evaluate your home, your neighborhood, and the surrounding neighborhoods. They will also do  a CMA and pull some numbers to show you where your home stands in market value for your area. Without all of the information, none of us can give you an accurate answer.

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December 12 2008
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Congratulations.  If you're going to be in the home for a while and you're happy, than don't follow the sales transactions for the next year or two.  Again, congrats, I hope to purchase again in the next year. 

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December 13 2008
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An appraisal after a contract is accepted is not a clear indication of whether you got a good deal or not. If, however, you hired an appraiser beforehand and the numbers said $200K and you then contracted to buy for $140K yes I would think you got a good deal. Unfortunately the banks appraisal would likely come in much closer to the agreed price.

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December 14 2008
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I know a lot of houses been listed for low 400's with zillow estimates mid 500's.

 

MariaMorton, I disagree, do not ask your realtor to evaluate the market. Their scale has not been updated yet, most of them are still living in 2005. Me and my cousin (he is on the market now to buy something) have a lot of examples which sellers came way below the buyer's agent's estimate.

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December 14 2008

I think asking a realtor for an evaluation is your best source of information.  Looking at sales within the last 3-6 months you will have a good overview of value for the home you are considering.  Sellers can be more flexible with their price if they have owned the house for more than 5 years, and are in a distress sale situation. 

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December 14 2008
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One thing Zillow typically cant decifer is property condition, so zestimates are typically based on the avg. neighborhood condition of solds. If you house has a terible floor plan and/or needs complete rehab, the zestimate will be way off.  Generally on rehabs, the zestimate is closer to what the property is worth REMODELED.
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