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Do you still have to purchase mortgage insurance if refi'ing when you owe 80-105% of the mortgage?

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April 17 2009 - Everett Mall South
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once you go over 80% loan to value ratio, you can stop paying PMI but until then, yeeeup.
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September 05 2009
who in the world do you all use to refi a harp with MI? That program is suppose to come out in the middle of the third quarter.
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September 01 2009
good answer Bryce. I would add the HARP loan is for current FNMA and FHLMC loans only at this time.
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April 17 2009
With the new making home affordable plan, you can refinance up to 105% of the value of your home. If you currently pay MI with you loan, you will still have it on the new one. If you do not have MI, then you will not have it on the new loan.

It's possible you may have LPMI or lender paid mortgage insurance. This is not allowed under the new program.

You can visit www.makinghomeaffordable.gov for more information.
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April 17 2009

Traditional refinances over 80% loan to value have not changed.  You will need MI or MI buyout.

To my knowledge, MHA refinances with MI are not being closed.  The MI companies are not insuring the new loans due to high risk. 

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April 17 2009
It's up to the bank your do your refinance with.
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April 17 2009
The MI determination cor MHA is whether or not you are currently paying MI.  If you do not have MI now, and refi to 105% LTV, you will not be required to pay MI on the new loan.
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April 17 2009
To the best of my knowledege, Yes. However there are other factors to evaluate.

A question to consider is: If you do  need to pay PMI to refinace, will the added monthly expense still make the refince cost effective? And If so...

A second question to ask is what would the break even point be for the refi... here's an example, if the refi saves you $150 per month and the costs for the refi are $1,500, your break even point would be 10 months.

If you plan to live in the home for say 5 years, given the above secnario, even with the added PMI expense, you'll end up saving money in the long term.
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April 17 2009
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I believe the answer is less unless you originally did not owe PMI and are now refinancing under the Home Affordable plan.
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