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- Tug of War
- Contributions:1947
No way..Haven't you heard all the "You can'ts'" from the "We knows"
Probably another "Improvement" in Progress ;)
I'm giving you a Thumbs Up though just because I like you
Probably another "Improvement" in Progress ;)
I'm giving you a Thumbs Up though just because I like you
- wetdawgs
- Contributions:26804
I've noticed recently that some for sale houses have Zestimate in the top left, and some have it only in the table further below. I've not yet found a pattern.
Have you checked a few of those that have no Zestimate through API to see if it is still on the home details page further down and simply not being called the same way?
Have you checked a few of those that have no Zestimate through API to see if it is still on the home details page further down and simply not being called the same way?
Well, there was a post about the Zestimates on the map being different than the ones on the home details page yesterday...
But that seems to be a different issue. I thought it was just viewing in the transition between the regular estimate updates.
But I also seen the "best answer" counter going crazy today, counting additional best answers that didn't exist, and then later removing them. And the "top contributor" list has been out of order several times also.
Besides, it wasn't "you can't", it was "they don't", and "it is their right to do what they want".
But that seems to be a different issue. I thought it was just viewing in the transition between the regular estimate updates.
But I also seen the "best answer" counter going crazy today, counting additional best answers that didn't exist, and then later removing them. And the "top contributor" list has been out of order several times also.
Besides, it wasn't "you can't", it was "they don't", and "it is their right to do what they want".
- Tug of War
- Contributions:1947
Whatever "We knows"..whatever
- HomeSand.net, "White Picture"
- Contributions:4392
Also the thumb-ups on this thread doesn't work neither.
Tug, WetDawgs, Asian_Orange, can you try to click on some?
Tug, WetDawgs, Asian_Orange, can you try to click on some?
The thumbs up button seems to be broken now too.
And the "we knows" should technically be the people with green Zillow tags next to their names; but when it comes to some site issues, several site users seem to know about them more than those with Zillow tags, including possible methods for gaming the system.
I've seen several methods posted on here that work for how to remove a Zestimate from a home details page, but of course not authorized nor approved of by Zillow.
And the "we knows" should technically be the people with green Zillow tags next to their names; but when it comes to some site issues, several site users seem to know about them more than those with Zillow tags, including possible methods for gaming the system.
I've seen several methods posted on here that work for how to remove a Zestimate from a home details page, but of course not authorized nor approved of by Zillow.
- HomeSand.net, "White Picture"
- Contributions:4392
WetDawgs,
I checked on the API call from Zillow then it is still going same way as same as before.
By my experience, there is no API GetDeepComps returning if there is no Zestimate on that property (It is not just today).
On some properties, the Zestimates are ON and OFF, show and No show from one click to the next one on same property.
I checked on the API call from Zillow then it is still going same way as same as before.
By my experience, there is no API GetDeepComps returning if there is no Zestimate on that property (It is not just today).
On some properties, the Zestimates are ON and OFF, show and No show from one click to the next one on same property.
- hpvanc
- Contributions:2570
I think Zillow has been experimenting with new formats. I don't know if it is just web presentation or if something is up with the Zestimate calculation as well. I have noticed on several of the "where did my Zestimate go" threads that their properties still had a Zestimate on the map, but not on the property page. I'm flagging them in hopes Zillow will respond.
- wetdawgs
- Contributions:26804
@Homesand.net - I can't thumbs up. I also see a series of blank boxes in the top editing toolbar just above the text box for writing a post. They work if I click on them, but that requires my pea brain to remember what they were/are.
Interesting...
I just checked one I've been tracking... it now has the 2011 tax assessed value, and the Zestimate states "none", and the range indicates -- and the last updated indicates -- but the trend on the graph still shows through Jan 2011, thus the trend data was not zeroed out.
Is it possible that it is another major algorithm change that was not announced? At least they didn't recalculate the history yet.
I just checked one I've been tracking... it now has the 2011 tax assessed value, and the Zestimate states "none", and the range indicates -- and the last updated indicates -- but the trend on the graph still shows through Jan 2011, thus the trend data was not zeroed out.
Is it possible that it is another major algorithm change that was not announced? At least they didn't recalculate the history yet.
- sunnyview
- Contributions:25127
Strange site experience this evening. The boxes are blank, but the buttons still work for links, spacing etc. Feels like I am typing in the Twilight Zone with broken thumbs to boot. :(
Another one in the same neighborhood with the same issues... likely all of them? This one was last purchased much more recently. I'm thinking it is a delay in the cloud computing for February, and that the maps are using the prior numbers, and using a slightly different database than the home details pages use. I'm guessing that the database for the maps gets updated after all the data comes in for the database used for the home details pages.
- HomeSand.net, "White Picture"
- Contributions:4392
Asian_Oragnge,
Yes it is possible, but in my mind is that, the currently Zillow's algorithm is already good, If zillow want to change their method then they do not change in a very short of amount of time (just 8 months ago), this prevents Zillow from get another tsunami, Maybe very soon, they may public the 'My estimate". But it is just my guess and my guesses are always wrong.
Yes it is possible, but in my mind is that, the currently Zillow's algorithm is already good, If zillow want to change their method then they do not change in a very short of amount of time (just 8 months ago), this prevents Zillow from get another tsunami, Maybe very soon, they may public the 'My estimate". But it is just my guess and my guesses are always wrong.
The "tsunami" was calculating past numbers, and announcing they made a change after the fact.
The tolerance range substantially narrowed in September, but apparently just from the "learning" of the models, and the programming implemented to throw out bad numbers.
Obviously, there is always room for improvement. And the statistics team that does the estimates is different than the programming team working on the my-estimates. But I still think it is just a delay in getting the numbers run this time, and there is no data available for February yet.
Still, they usually show the last calculated numbers, so it appears to also be a change in format to the home details page. Russ stated they would be releasing an improvement to the "owner's comment" on the Zestimate, so maybe it is related to that. It is Wednesday, and the major releases tend to come out on Wednesday nights.
The tolerance range substantially narrowed in September, but apparently just from the "learning" of the models, and the programming implemented to throw out bad numbers.
Obviously, there is always room for improvement. And the statistics team that does the estimates is different than the programming team working on the my-estimates. But I still think it is just a delay in getting the numbers run this time, and there is no data available for February yet.
Still, they usually show the last calculated numbers, so it appears to also be a change in format to the home details page. Russ stated they would be releasing an improvement to the "owner's comment" on the Zestimate, so maybe it is related to that. It is Wednesday, and the major releases tend to come out on Wednesday nights.
If only I was successful. But it is just another example of zillow ineptitude where they have screwed up whatever thyer were trying to do. That is the whole point of my protest about Zillow. They lack the infrastructure and capability to do what they are trying to do. Consequently, there are multiple failings which adversely impact zestimates and why I consider they should accept input from homeowners when errors are brought to their attention.
If only they don't fix this current mess I will be happy as it has delivered what I want. Maybe there was extra ping pong yesterday and they were too busy to fix the technical problems. Unfortunately they can probably go back to the previous version and put us all back in misery again.
If only they don't fix this current mess I will be happy as it has delivered what I want. Maybe there was extra ping pong yesterday and they were too busy to fix the technical problems. Unfortunately they can probably go back to the previous version and put us all back in misery again.
That bug seems to be "fixed" now that the 2/2/12 estimates are posted.
but the other two bugs mentioned still seem to be a problem.
but the other two bugs mentioned still seem to be a problem.
"That bug seems to be "fixed" now that the 2/2/12 estimates are posted."
Fixed? It was perfect when it showed no zestimate. Now all they have done is go back to the previous file generation that had millions of incorrect zestimates. I just wish they kept playing ping pong and left everything the way it was yesterday.
Fixed? It was perfect when it showed no zestimate. Now all they have done is go back to the previous file generation that had millions of incorrect zestimates. I just wish they kept playing ping pong and left everything the way it was yesterday.
- HomeSand.net, "White Picture"
- Contributions:4392
Thanks Pasa.
I have noticed. All I want now that click the thumb-up on all of the posts in this thread, included Surbiton's posts, but I can't do it 8(
I have noticed. All I want now that click the thumb-up on all of the posts in this thread, included Surbiton's posts, but I can't do it 8(
I've been looking at one property that was purchased for over $2 million in 2005. Since purchase, the owner has dumped at least another $1 million into improvements, expansion, restoration, landscape, and other. They listed it at end of 2009 for $2.6 million, taking it off the market a few months later.
Now Zillow is estimating the property for $1.7 million, and is estimating the neighbor property that was purchased decades ago and has had no major revisions for many many years for more.
It just goes to show that the machine methods cannot adjust for improvements nor condition. It also is an indicator that you can't dump millions into a property and expect it to raise the value proportional to your investment, especially when it is improved substantially beyond the rest of the neighborhood and local market.
It was also interesting to see that the more recently purchased property estimate was more susceptible to wide swings from market anomalies.
Now Zillow is estimating the property for $1.7 million, and is estimating the neighbor property that was purchased decades ago and has had no major revisions for many many years for more.
It just goes to show that the machine methods cannot adjust for improvements nor condition. It also is an indicator that you can't dump millions into a property and expect it to raise the value proportional to your investment, especially when it is improved substantially beyond the rest of the neighborhood and local market.
It was also interesting to see that the more recently purchased property estimate was more susceptible to wide swings from market anomalies.
By the way, I checked the estimates on Homesand.net
for both of these properties... $1.1 million for the $2 million recent sale
and $1.56 million for the neighbor with minimal changes and no recent sales.
It just shows the difficulty in estimating the higher end properties. And this isn't even close to the "very high end" for nearby neighborhoods.
Appraiser stated $1.6 M for the neighbor property in 2007. Zillow shows it at $1.7 M or $1.8 M for the same time period (2 separate month numbers, not range as Zillow doesn't provide range for past numbers).
for both of these properties... $1.1 million for the $2 million recent sale
and $1.56 million for the neighbor with minimal changes and no recent sales.
It just shows the difficulty in estimating the higher end properties. And this isn't even close to the "very high end" for nearby neighborhoods.
Appraiser stated $1.6 M for the neighbor property in 2007. Zillow shows it at $1.7 M or $1.8 M for the same time period (2 separate month numbers, not range as Zillow doesn't provide range for past numbers).
- Russ Hatfield, "RussHatfield"
- Contributions:336
Hi all,
We had a problem with synchronization across our servers over the last ~24 hours or so which resulted in the various Zestimate display behaviors reported by many people. Synchronization looks to have mostly returned to normal, minus a few small pockets in the country which should be caught-up within a few hours.
We have bugs filed for both the "missing button labels" and "can't thumbs-up" issues and both are being investigated. I don't have an ETA for resolution just yet, though.
I'll update this thread as we get more info.
Thank you for your patience...and for the reports.
Russ
Zillow Customer Care
We had a problem with synchronization across our servers over the last ~24 hours or so which resulted in the various Zestimate display behaviors reported by many people. Synchronization looks to have mostly returned to normal, minus a few small pockets in the country which should be caught-up within a few hours.
We have bugs filed for both the "missing button labels" and "can't thumbs-up" issues and both are being investigated. I don't have an ETA for resolution just yet, though.
I'll update this thread as we get more info.
Thank you for your patience...and for the reports.
Russ
Zillow Customer Care
" Synchronization looks to have mostly returned to normal, minus a few small pockets in the country which should be caught-up within a few hours."
Back to normal? We had a few hours of 'normal' when the servers were not synchronized correctly. Those of us with wildly inaccurate zestimates had a period of relief when we didn't have the curse of zillow maked with a lime green "Z" on our front doors like we have again today.
Back to normal? We had a few hours of 'normal' when the servers were not synchronized correctly. Those of us with wildly inaccurate zestimates had a period of relief when we didn't have the curse of zillow maked with a lime green "Z" on our front doors like we have again today.
Does Surbiton successful on his campaign to remove the Zestimates?
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