Drywood termite - can't be detected by appraisals and normal house inspections

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The property that I am in the process of closing has a termite report indicating three local termite problems. The estimated cost to fix the problem is $550. Since then, I have done a house inspection (cost $400), an appraisal before May 1(cost $425), and another appraisal on June 12 (cost $435). From the three reports I received, no termite problems were identified. How come? Now, my loan broker is talking to another lender and the lender requests to perform another appraisal, this becomes unbelievable, and my broker will cover the cost of the 3rd appraisal. I told my broker to pay attention to the termite problem and he said that is part of the appraisal. How come the first two appraisals did not reveal any termite problem? Thanks!
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June 24 2009 - San Marcos
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No general appraisals any state I have ever lived in included a termite inspection. The house inspector and the termite inspector were also separate. I am curious are they commonly done together in your state MarKus?
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November 06 2011
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Some general appraisals include termite inspections, some do not.  I would check with the company you had the original inspection.  If they were supposed to and didn't, that could be an issue.
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November 06 2011
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Home inspectors and appraisers do not identify termites. 
You need to have a certified termite inspection by a termite 
company. They usually charge anywhere from $50-$150 for 
the reports. Most companies waive this fee if you decide 
to do any work with them. Make sure to get at least two estimates
but decide on one and use ONLY that report and company to 
do the work. 
I've seen realtors using two reports and the termite companies will
not "certify" another company's findings and treatments, and this 
usually causes delays and problems. For termite control in los angeles I would recommend  [hotlink deleted by Zillow moderator] But do your own research. 
Pricing for termite treatments can vary significantly depending who 
quotes the work. 
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November 06 2011
padadena:

tenting isn't normally used for the type of termites we have here in the desert. Treatment is usually made by drilling holes in the slab and putting some termite bait/poison or something down the holes. treatment is generally not too expensive, and warranties for future termites are reasonable.

In AZ, we generally say there are two types of homes:
Those that have termites, and those that will get termites!
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June 25 2009
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Lenders require a property condition report to make the loan. This will include an appraisal, which is nothing more than a value check. It might also include a home inspection and more detailed inspections within the scope of home inspection depending on what was discovered and reported. They might also require wood destroying organism inspections, radon, mold, asbestos, lead, septic, well and a survey.

As stated above, appraisers do not do termite inspections. Your first appraisal (before May 1) is about two months old and the second appraisal is about two weeks old and getting older. Appraisals are only good for a short period of time and often not done more than 14 days prior to settlement. You're going on two months now and should look at why with your broker.
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June 25 2009
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This is a short sale by owner.I made an offer three months ago and the bank agreed. but before our paper work was done, the official bank agreement was expired. now the listing agent is trying to get the bank's extension and we have been waiting for two months. My realtor told me that the saler have to take care of the termite problem, but I do not know how, that is why I was trying to ask the appraiser to take a look at it. The deal is 500 with 40% down.
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June 25 2009
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You started out saying you have a termite report indicating termite problems. The next step should have been to ask (tell) the seller to have the problem fixed(treated) and documented. This all during your 10 day (approximate) grace period. I fhe seller refused to fix the situation then you move on to the next property. Where is your buyers agent?
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June 25 2009
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And even if an home inspector finds them, the exclude that from the scope of their work.  So do the appraisers.  And actually, even the termite inspectors have all kinds of exclussions, especially for areas they considered "inaccessible" when they reviewed the site.

If the repairs are minor, it usually doesn't affect the appraised value substantually.  Besides, in California, the seller is responsible for the termite inspection and correction, thus the appraised value is assumed to be "after required corrections".

If termites were found, there likely are more in the areas that were considered "inaccessible", thus I would ask for those areas to be made accessible so that the termite company can be held responsible for all the corrections needed.  I would also inspect it myself after the corrections are supposedly "completed", as I had to call the termite company back 13 times before the work was even close to being done, and even then, there were at least 3 areas that I missed that were accessible and should have been very obvious.


Besides, $550 doesn't even cover the cost of tenting, let alone any wood replacement..., so it doesn't affect the appraised value.  Someone is giving you the run-around.  You don't need 3 appraisals to get one loan, unless of course you offered too much money and the lender doesn't think there is enough collateral to cover their risk.
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June 25 2009
appraisers don't look for termites, that is not their job.
A home inspector MAY notice them, but to find termites, you hire a termite inspector...
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