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bought investment property in 9/07and had a home inspection done.  . I just recently found out it has faulty plumbing (kitec) and needs to be replumbed.  The inspection report states there is copper throughout  - with no mention of there being Kitec.  There has been litigation against Kitec since 2005. The inspector should have known about this.   What liability does the inspection company.have since I wouldnt have purchased this property with faulty plumbing.  And my insurance company has denied all claims  This house needs to be replumbed before it can be rented.  I dont have the funds to do what needs to be done
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July 25 2009 - Las Vegas
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Kitec is a brand of composite pipe made from flexible aluminum encased in polyethylene plastic used in many homes for potable water delivery.  Funny thing though, it is not the plastic that is known to fail but the brass fittings used to connect the pipe which fail due to a process called "dezincification" (google it to learn more).  This in turn causes premature failure of the piping, reduced water flow, etc.  Now the bad news:  It is NOT repairable, will ALWAYS fail in due time and the entire system must be re-piped with an alternative material (but you already knew that bit).  The good news is there are many reputable contractors around awaiting to do just that!

Two questions:  First:  How do you know it has Kitec?  Second: The question is whether or not the inspector could have known that the property was piped with Kitec.  Is the water delivery via the slab or are the pipes visible in the attic?  If not visible sometimes your electrical panel will contain a small yellow sticker mentioning it's use.
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August 22 2009
It is often difficult to indentify Kitec piping, however if it is exposed in the attic, the inspector should have noted it.
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October 03 2010
aaacck,

Have you spoken with the inspector that performed the inspection on your house?  I would start there.

Good luck!
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September 09 2009
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no home warranty and my insurance company has denied my claim
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September 04 2009
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I am positive this is Kitec for several reasons.  In the attic I can see the red and blue kitec lines ,  they are very close to air handler and are out in the open.  Although I didnt see a yellow sticker in my breaker panel, there is a sticker in my neighbors panel.  But what really gets me, is that there has been a class-action suit against the mfg of Kitec and the builders who used this type of plumbing that was filed on February 15, 2006.  There is an estimated thirty-five and fifty thousand that may contain Kitec® fittings.  I purchased this property in Sept.  2007,  Why would the inspector not know to look for Kitec.  Especially since it was plainly visible in the attic. In the inspection report, the report states the plumbing supply and the plumbing distribution were inspected and are copper, which they arent.  If it was marked "Not Inspected", it would be different, but it states copper.

   Im not positive,  but I think the main supply goes into the attic and hits a manifold to distribute to all the fixtures.

I had a detection done twice, both times it was pinpointed to the main bath in the house.   I timed the water meter and there is water leaking at 4 gal./ min.  I opened the wall and do not see any visible water after the main shutoff was on for about 20 min leaking at this rate. The wasnt any pooling of water at all.   So, I am assuming the leak is under the slab.  And it wouldnt be cost effective to break up the slab and say "Yep, theres the leak" and have to replumb anyway. 

OK, now let me ask you, since you are in this industry

-What liabilities does the inspection company have since they clearly misrepresented the plumbing as being copper
-shouldnt they have been aware of the industry problems that were out there, since there was a class-action filed more that 1 1/2 prior to this inspection.  They must have seen it before,  if not seen leak damage related to the kitec problems. 

I wouldnt have purchased this property had I known.  The builder is out of business and I have no way of being reimbursed for the replumb. 

All info would be greatly appreciated, thanks
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September 04 2009
I've never heard of a plumbing inspection.
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August 01 2009
The homebuilders who used Kitec have been re-piping the homes at no cost to the homebuyer.  Check with the builder to see whether they've got a program for this.

The inspector is licensed and bonded (or at least, I hope you used a licensed and bonded inspector).  However, I'm willing to bet dollars to doughnuts that the inspection report disclaims liability for pipe fittings and other plumbing that is within the foundation or cannot be visibly inspected.  If it can't be visibly inspected, then the inspector wouldn't know it's there.  In areas and on homes where Kitec was known to have been used, it's always a good idea to get a plumbing inspection as well. 
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August 01 2009
I would say speak with a certified real estate attorney. Is Kitec a p.v.c. product? Do you have a home warranty? summerlin? best of luck
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