Hope you are ready for a DOW crash.

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Should be here pretty soon.

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March 24 2008 - US

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I'm not an active trader, so now's my chance to ask:

 

* What sectors are safest to short?

* What % to cover (wrong or right)?

* Plain old shorts, buy puts, or write naked calls?

 

Not that I'll do anything with that, I'm just curious being that I'm much more a long-term value investor sort with a secret fascination for quant arb models that actually work.

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I"M READY!!!!

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Safest to short? haha

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Safest to short? haha

 

As far as shorting goes I mean.  I was just wondering because I read this morning in the FT that short-interest is at an all time high, in some sectors higher than 99/early 2000.

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March 24 2008

Randy, I would look for 100% American Made companies... including the materials. They should do well with inflation. There's a leather company in Tx that's 100%... don't know if there's stock for it.

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no naked calles that is for sure. Buying puts is ok. I would buy short ETFs : SKF, SRS.

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March 24 2008
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Shorting financials has been safe (relatively speaking) since last year.

 

Some of my current short positions include...

 

BAC

FNM

FRE

LEH

 

I bought more TMA, however... It was a good lottery ticket.

 

As was BSC... Made a killing on that one.

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March 24 2008
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Thanks.  I appreciate the insights (from people who really trade).

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March 24 2008
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BSC is a mess right now. I am really starting to wonder... This could get very ugly.

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BSC is an example of the joys associated with government intervention.

 

They could have just saved a bunch of time and just come right over to my house to give me the bill for the 2008 Investment Banker Bailout Act.

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Not to mention completely illegal.

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March 24 2008
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Randy

2 Rules

1) never write anything unless you really, really know what you are doing

2) if the market is as short as you say it is - and it is - better be on the bid cos thats a sure sign its going up

Watch the S&P - if it closes above 1340 then you better stand clear.

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Fydell, whats your education? So we would be on the same page?

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March 24 2008
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I've done a good bit of options trading, but mostly associated with hedges and mostly long-dated.  The only time I've done speculative options trading was writing calls against stocks I'd accumulated over many years.  That usually turned a tiny profit net of fees & taxes; not enough to command my attention.

 

Like I said, I'm just curious.  If I go short in the market as a macro-bet it will be through inverse ETFs, like rak0t mentioned or the others.  (No need to digress into the flaws of ETFs.  I know, I know).

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March 24 2008
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I dont think it is reasonable to mananage non systematic exposure on daily basis. Index funds should be your instrument of choice. Anyone who is buying inidividual stocks is taking unnecessary risk and wont be reward since their information ratio is by far less superior to other analysts in the field

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March 24 2008
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So far so good All Dread DOW up 250.09 for the day 2 PM eastern.  Up last 2 weeks week over week. Need to adjust your crystal ball? 

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March 24 2008
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Imdebtfree should support made in America on general principles. I wonder what used to be made here that was better than foreign cheap stuff? I found a big sturdy paper stapler in the garage that belonged to my grandfather the other day, made by a company out of New York called Swingline. It still works... that is well made .

 

Lisa

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I have a swingline stapler.  God Bless America!

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March 24 2008
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March 24 2008
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You did NOT have permission to post my picture!

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March 24 2008
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Guys - take the stock trading classes somewhere else.

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March 24 2008
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HA HA.  the DOW is up 187 points Aldreth. 

 

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It's ok though, I accept your apology. 

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March 24 2008
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Guys - take the stock trading classes somewhere else.

 

I'm sorry.  Is the sea of high quality information seeping from every pore of this forum being otherwise blighted by our brief discussion here, in an otherwise unexcitingly short thread?

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March 24 2008
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If you actually believe this bottom nonsense, I have a condo for sale in Miami. The next few months will completely change your view of my, "predictions".

 

 

Predictions, if that is how you wish to label them, will very soon become fact.

 

I don't make "predictions".

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March 24 2008

Aldreth, hate to bother you, and you don't have to be specific about where, but what odds do you put on defalation happening outside of RE and stock market?

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March 24 2008
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It's a possibility, however, we have to inflate ourselves out of this mess first. I don't think deflation is much of a concern for the short term.

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March 25 2008
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yes, rather than devaluing the homes, we devalue the contracts that the homes are sold for, that is the way to fix the problem!

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March 25 2008
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I'm much more comfortable with my liquid assets.

 

Mostly Johnny Walker Blue these days.............

 

Thanx, D

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March 25 2008

Yea, I'm investing in bottles of Johnnie Walker Blue instead of Blue Chip Stock. I get a better return than I did on crap like C and BAC. Wiped out my 5 years of IRA gain.

 

 

Now I have to drown myself in Booze, I mean Blue.

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March 25 2008

I'm expecting Hilary Clinton to bail me out on my C and BAC investment in my IRA.  I deserve that $30 billions also.

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March 25 2008
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