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Or more accurately; please advise me ( an average DIYer) on how to do it.
They are wood, on pulleys and long painted shut. The climate here does change…hot and humid to dry and freezing. This is a somewhat neutral month (70's).
Some are located on a second story.
I have basic hand tools , Wd40, an oscillating multi-tool with plunge cut blade and scraper (The multi-tool is like Fein's Multimaster).
The multi-tool opened a couple very nicely but some are still stuck.
And a couple pulleys have been cut.
Will I have to remove the casing to replace broken pulleys?
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Pasa, there are so many things to do with this "little" tool and all sorts of tutorials online…it is making tasks that felt like drudgery quite interesting again.
P.S. Zillow won't let me spell out neekked...lol
Those are my nearly neekked windows, getting ready to re-drape them for the winter.
On the third "plunge cut wood" Pasa, mainly because the tool has been handy in clearing the bamboo from in front of the windows. "In some spots, the side of the blade @ 10-12 was enough to get through cleanly, the tool was easily maneuvered. After finding the right angle on it and letting it do the work…easy(ish).
Tried flexible & rigid scraper blades and Fien's PVC/wood/soft metal ¾ round blade.
Dunes, you have the most enjoyable stories and I certainly prefer your characterization of the circumstance, we'll spin my efforts into a "noble cause of preservation" (instead of the reality of being too broke to replace ;-). Don't think for a second that these relics wouldn't be replaced by functional storm shutters and 4 layers of glass…
Stained glass protected by an outside layer and another 2 to "sandwich" blinds.
Okay maybe not "stained glass" for this particular property.
Breaking glass and sledge-hammering walls…everyone who has the urge should get to have that experience at least once.
Those beautiful old buildings that have been chopped-up, frequently take a certain amount of extra effort. This one is not that "historic"; it did have a stairs ending in a door.
BTW there is something to be said for the improvements in newer windows, safety glass, energy saving, not swelling with a change in weather…not slamming shut on fingers.
Also, didn't have to remove the casing the over painted pulleys/rope are thankfully doing the job for now.
Unfortunately (or fortunately ;-) I am the landlord who also lives in one of my units.
I've been "shimmying" this property up to decent standards for years, so much to do and undo/redo.
Sealing the windows does seem shortsighted, especially in a school, where having several escape alternatives (functioning windows) seems like it would have been a nice "feature" to have.
The stuff these are sealed with in this side of the property seems to vary, one with a resin that I'm still scraping off.
Some glass panes had been replaced with cheap plastic and installed with a gooey (non-building material) type of substance.
There are days when all I can think is "interesting choice" and try to appreciate that the person was doing the best they could with what they seemed to have on hand, but many more days when the reminder is…just how much damage a person can do to a house when DIYing or "quick fixing".
Finally one of the windows did crack on the last shove open.
Several more open. One of the most stubborn had actually been sealed with something "durable" (not like caulk – I'd like to exaggerate and compare it to Gorilla Glue).
Some of these windows have a metal track and a "groove" in the bottom that fits into a ridge.
Now that their construction is revealed, it [almost] makes sense as to why some of them are not fully closed but filled in solid.
Hopefully, more of the tracts are in tact
I was in an accident at age 17 that paralyzed my then 24 year old boyfriend (C5/6). The rolling threw us both out of the car (no seatbelts of course).
He was DUI and I was a practically wild foster kid. I took care of him for several years, it really was the tough road to have chosen.
It sounds like a good thing you are doing Pasa, if you plan to continue with frequency and in the long term then, yes a lift will make things easier. Store the Manuel one in the van as well if possible.
That 3D drill is a work of brilliance! I've had a flexible bit before but only to reach tight areas and it didn't even do that task well.
I really thought I would zip through these windows in a couple days (Tops) but see now that it will be a project. I'll pick it up again this weekend.
Thank you for cheerleading wetdawgs!
I forgot to say "TaDa"…Got a second one open yesterday…without breaking anything.
Now that the windows will be working, it's time to get the locking mechanisms functioning, screens replaced…
Thanks to the advice here, it's feeling much more inspiring (I'll try to remember to report back when the last ones get opened).
It was years ago Mack, one of those kits to test the house yourself with a dozen or so instant results. Nothing I would use on a disclosure but it gave me a (very) little peace of mind while sanding the floors down (still had a cheepo respirator). If you know of one that could give results for asbestos (under $100.)? I'm thinking to check the interior walls, duct work and a hidden linoleum layer.
Pasa, you are making me miss my old (perfectly stocked) garage so much. At that time my "philosophy" on tools was that you needed "the right one for ‘the' job".
A 3d driver? Never have used one or even heard such a thing...envious and interested.
I am moving much slower these days, anything that requires a recip/saw would likely be too much for now. I think you're right on the upstairs windows and am coming to the conclusion that they are going to need someone with ‘actual' tools & skills to address them. Also that I don't care for the current install on the storm windows and that it may be time to repaint the house trim…not at all in my tiny budget but it's going on the long "to do" list.
Right now the property is for sale with a broker but if it doesn't sell, I may settle in for awhile, do some work and just keep one unit rented and make this my home (for now).
It might be possible to actually enjoy the process of restore instead of gut. Working with what you have is a valuable lesson and me being required to move at a snails pace has also been a valuable lesson.
Joseph, those hardware pieces were beautiful online. Of course the first thought was "it won't be too much to put in new"…lol @ moi…so many windows. I could spend days looking at any catalog that has anything to do with houses…love houses :-)
Pasa! You're going wild with my money "buy another tool". This multi-tool is fast becoming a favorite. The battery life (by switching between 2) seems to be sufficient so far for my own personal speed, very easy to maneuver and decent quality. It's a Milwaukee, came with a rotary tool and a compact driver. The attachment blades can be pricey…Amazon, Ebay and yes how could I forget an excuse to go down to Harbor Freight. This tool has now been used for so many things, including yard work (zipping through bamboo).
There are just over a dozen windows to "practice with" on this side before going over to the other side of the building and most have outside storm windows as well.
Thus far the paint has not come back positive for lead but the siding is asbestos…so there is no room to err there. For the moment a makeshift depth stop has been working well.
This has been a rental for a long time, there has been years of shoddy/quick fixes to now unquirkify.
It seems as if paint has dripped down into the tracks and "become one" with some of the windows.
I won't likely strip anything because paint seems to be holding certain things together…like the ropes ;-). Thank you for the environmentally friendly reminder on the orange stuff.
On a side note…
It's nice that Zillow advertisers have got an ad going for restorative hardware on the side of my screen.
broker_GRIIt sounds like you got some really painted in ones. I don't know whatkind of paint they were using back then but its tough, there's is alwaysthis layer that's tougher than all the other ones.If it still doesn't cut into it you may have to soften them up some.The coolest stripper I found by accident, I first ordered it online...paid abunch or it then later found it at walmart half the price.It comes in a rectangle plastic bottle and its orange citrus something,it really eco friendly too, smells like oranges believe it or not and itwashes out with tap water.My sis is big into the environment thing and if she uses it, its be proven.I'm the guy that buys the most polluted thing out there cause usuallyits the best...but I'm doing better...lol.Wish you all the best on those windows. Happy weekend !-Joseph-
This has all been encouraging/ helpful information and very much appreciated. It makes the construction of the windows more clear. The razor around the edges didn't cut it (tried it years ago). There are a few windows that have the evidence of having been tried to be forced and those are going to take some extra attention to restore.
Typically my preference is to tear things out and put new in, so this restoration is going to be a first.
I've refinished floors here, painted what could be painted but now it's time for the unglamorous stuff.
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