How to fix, to code, low ceiling in basement so can use legally as a bedroom?

Home build in 1947 has basement. In 2002 the owner then turned it into 2 rooms with a bathroom- un-permitted. One of the rooms has a low ceiling. The home sold in 2002 with no problem. Would like to get this basement permitted. Is there a way to get these rooms up to code?
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September 22 2010 - Mar Vista
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Profile picture for Ron Escobar
I can tell you that I am a General Contractor and a Real Estate Broker... everything is possible to do in terms of construction, but it does not mean that it makes economic sense...

Your first step should be to hire an architect to evaluate the situation... it does not have to be a large firm, there are plenty of solo practitioners that are affordable...
email me directly and I can point you to a few that I know.

Best of luck!
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December 14 2010
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Dan,
I would advise you not to bother. It's not going to add a lot of value relative to the cost. You can sell it yourself as "unpermitted additions." Let the next guy drop $50K figuring it out. Make it on the next house.
Brock
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September 28 2010
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Per UBC, minimum ceiling height for "livable space" is 7'6".  If the drywall is at the floor joists, you are not getting additional height, unless "averaging" by boxing around the floor joists gains you something.

And for bedrooms, UBC requires natural light/ventilation and a second exit.  Many basements can have windows; but if you can't get one, the space simply won't be a "bedroom".  You also at minimum require heating for the space to be counted.

If the ceiling is at the floor joists, and you want more height, I would call a house mover for an estimate.  They pick up houses off their foundations all the time.  They simply slide steal beams under the house, and use hydrolic jacks.  (Of course the house needs to be disconnected from all utilities first and unbolted from the foundation, but the house movers do this routinely).  Once off the foundation, you can dig, form and pour a new foundation.  When you have the foundation ready, you simply call the house mover back to put the house back down.

If all you want is more livable space, it may be cheaper to build a building addition.
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September 27 2010
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 It would seem you can make a ceiling higher 2 ways.

1 dig the basement a bit lower to make it deep enough. (jackhammer)
2 raise the house above the basement (while adding height to the foundation) enough to have a legal height.

Hopefully the ideas below remove the need to consider these 2 options. 
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September 27 2010
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Go to the department of building and safety and they can help you.
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September 27 2010
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It is so rare to read about a house with a basement on Mar Vista.  The basement is most likely permitted, but the current confiuration could pose a challenge.  You should inquire with a local contractor who knows the current codes and get an opinion.  I would go direct to the city just yet.
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September 23 2010
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Dear Renae,
Please go to the city building department in your city and speak to one of the engineers. They will inform  you of current building codes and how  or if you can meet them with such a structure.
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September 23 2010
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Codes vary from place to place. In some cases, you can have a lower than allowed ceiling if you mitigate the smoke danger in case of fire with sprinklers. Other times, you can make the ceiling an open beam to raise the average ceiling height to a grandfathered level. 

You best bet is probably calling your local permit/code office and asking anonymously what the options might be. Many times the municipality wants to make sure that the addition is safe so they will try to work with you, but it varies so test the waters before you give them the address and call the inspector in.
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September 23 2010
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Renae -

Great question.  It sounds like you want to do things right and fix the un-permitted work.  Personally, before I went to the City Building Department, I would call an Architect or Structural Engineer.  It will cost some money to have them come out and review the renovation, but starting with licensed designers that have done many projects in your town could save you lots of time and money in the long-run.  They will be able to give you a good idea of the total cost of the project.
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September 22 2010
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The local building and saftey inspector can come to the property and tell yyou exactly what it will require to bring the basement to code (or if it is possible).  Good luck.
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September 22 2010
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Go speak with your towns person in charge of permits and building. I find people are usually very helpful especially if you are trying to make something right.
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