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I want to refinance my mortgage loan under the Making Home Affordable plan, but the loan is not backed by Fannie/Freddie, but owned by Wells Fargo.  I was told that some banks will offer the same low interest rates for everyone even if their loans are not backed by Fannie/Freddie, but Wells Fargo is not one of them.  Right now the loan to value ratio is 95% with no PMI, Wells Fargo wants to add PMI if I refinance.  Can someone tell me which banks follow the same government guidelines for loans not backed by Fannie/Freddie?  Thanks.
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As Wells is one of my loan sources for wholesale lending, I found that all of their loans went through Freddie Mac.

Good Luck...Find a good broker in your state to help you.
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The current loan is a 5/1 ARM interest + principle.  The monthly mortgage statement doesn't show any index or margin number, just interest rate at 6%.  I think I have another year under this rate.  Since my loan amount falls between the traditional conforming and jumbo loan limit (in orange county, ca), the loan was a jumbo loan originally.  I was hoping to refinance by the end of this year, before they change the conforming loan limit back to 314K.
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77ruiz,

How much longer do you have before your first adjustment period?  Pull out your loan paperwork and grab your Note.  This will tell you what index your ARM is tied to and should also indicate what your margin is as well as when your first adjustment will be.  Is this loan Interest Only for the first 5 years? 
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@ Steve

Are you able to obtain PMI at a ~95% LTV in California?

I don't lend there but I was under the assumption that this is unavailable and that it would only be eligible at a max of 90 LTV.
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Ask your local mortgage professional about the FHA refinance. It will have the lowest MI factor and you can get a 30 year fixed rate below 5%.  The alternatives without MI will be protfolio lenders and the 30 year fixed rates are not pretty.  You could consider a portfolio RAM and give yourself anothe 5 years, rates are low but with the availablity of 30 year rates with FHA (even with MI) as low as they are right now I would seriously explore it before your ARM adjusts.
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Unfortunately this is the wonderful market crunch everyone is experiencing. There are some banks to do still offer the Refi plus programs as long as you go through the same bank and same MI company. Did you do a program with lender paid MI allowing you to not have to have MI?

As of right now, it looks like you do have the best program for your situation and your goals. Keep checking back with Wells though as the programs have been changing from month to month. Hence the new roll out of going up to 125% under Refi plus programs.

Hope that helps.
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Hi, the problem isn't paying the mortgage right now.  We got a good interest rate at 6% but only good for 5 years, and it will become variable next year.  I'm afraid that I won't be able to afford it if the rate jumps in the future or I lose my job.  With PMI and a slightly lower rate, my monthly payment will actually increase by $400 or so, not counting the closing cost.  I spoke with Wells Fargo, and they had nothing better to offer.  WF said my loan is owned by WF because I had good credit and a stable income.  I feel that I'm being "punished" for having a good credit score and now I'm stuck not being able to refinance.
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Since your loan is not owned by Fannie or Freddie then unfortunately you cannot use the Making Home Affordable Refinance.  But you should not have a problem  doing say an FHA refinance right now, but yes, your new loan would have PMI if you are at a 95% LTV.  I would also consider you luckier then most people if you were able to refinance with PMI. 

But if the PMI payments offset any monthly savings that a lower rate would grant you then you might be better off sticking with your current mortgage. Have you experienced a hardship which has led you to having difficulty making your existing payments? If so, then you might want to go back to Wells Fargo to see if you qualify to have a loan modification done. 

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Aside from a modification directly from Wells all refinance options regardless of what lender you go through will require PMI.
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