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Mortgage on a condo with high percentage of rental units (3/5 units rented)

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Martin

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I heard that there might be issues with buyers getting loans if a condo has more than 50% units rented. 
I am in a condo that has 5 units of which 3 are rented by owners.  Is it truly a negative when it comes to potential buyers getting approved for a loan in this situation? 
We are considering changing our bylaws to enforce less than 50% rental requirement, but it seems that it limits the flexibility of condo owners.

Thus I am hoping for some good advice from mortgage proffesionals here!

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You heard correctly. At least 51% of the units in the project must be owner-occupied. There are other restrictions you probably want to know about, such as:

No single entity may own more than 10% of the units in a project. For condominium projects having more than 30 units, no more than 10% of the units may have FHA insured loans at any given time. Condominium projects consisting of 30 units or less can have up to 20% of the units financed with an FHA insured mortgage under the spot loan rule.

This straight out of the FHA rules.

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January 30
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Martin

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Thanks Lewis.  So today unless the new buyer was paying cash he would not be able to get his mortgage approved if trying to buy a property in this situation (3/5 units rented). 
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Martin, contact a local mortgage broker. Ask if they enjoy challanges. With enough tenacity this could happen. I would start with posting a Broker's request on Scotsman Guide. I would also ask my Title Company to provide the lenders on the other 4 units. Then contact those lenders and yours if they would consider another purchase loan in the condo project. And then ....... Good luck!
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Some Lenders will do the mortgage even if more then 10% is owned by one person. The same will apply if 51% is rented. The Lender will warrant the condo it's called a stream line review. I have had lately a couple of deals which other brokers couldn't approve. I managed to do the loan as our bank will warranty the condo project.
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February 01
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Martin

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Thanks David and Rudi.  I am approaching it actually from a perspective of a current owner.  Is it better for a condo in our case to amend its bylaws to limit investment/rental properties to under 50%?
Seems that it could both hurt and help a resale value...
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It definitely makes sense to limit the # of non-owner occupied properties to a minority %.  Aside from difficulty in financing units, renters tend to lack that "pride of ownership' at times leading to less than ideal neighbors.  This in turn can affect home values as well.
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NO! changing the bylaws is a terrible idea. First off, do you really think the 3/5 who rent out their units will go for it? of course not! So, you won't be able to do it with all owners voting. If you try to do it at the condo associtaion meetings, expect a lawsuit. You are changing an ownership right, and many states have case law backing up the notion that a condo board ENFORCES the major ownership rights, but does not change them.

Second off, changing this law forces all the rental owners to sell their units. Ok, in your case it is only 3 but in a slow market, that will of itself force valued down. And, lastly, you have eliminated 2/3 of all prospective buyers. No investors will ever look again, neither will anybody with any sense. If they have to move suddenly for work, they have no choice but sell or leave it empty, thus making it an inferior condo to one that has no such restriction.
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February 02
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Martin

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Danny and Roberto - Thanks for the advice and sorry for the delay...got too busy to follow up on this.

The general idea we entertain is that if we vote to change our bylaws we would grandfather 2 renting units in (only allow 2/5 to rent) + have other hardship provisions (owner can rent for up to a year) and a queue for a spot for rental if any of the existing 2 units stops renting out.  We will not be forcing anyone to sell.

One of the rented condos will be coming for sale shortly and thus we are discussing our options.  If another investor buys the place than any existing owner (not investor) might have problems selling as the condo will be listed as 3/5 units rented.  At the same time as you point out that in turn limits potential buyers... Catch22

Roberto I absolutely agree with your last sentence.  If I need to move suddenly for a while I want to be able to rent it if I want to.
  The only reason we are thinking about it is because of mortgage rules potentially not financing a buyer if we have 3/5 rented...  So either scenario has issues...

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