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Please remember that Real Estate is LOCAL

...what's going on in CA, CO and UT isn't really going to affect you if you're in Waunakee WI.

For example, per The NY Times on 11/04/2007, an article called "College Towns Escape the Pain" By FORD FESSENDEN, pointed out that all the hoopin' and hollerin' on sub primes isn't a nation wide problem with peoples and families in high debt in every state but in minuscule when you look at the big picture, locally:


The list of metropolitan areas with the smallest percentage of high-cost home loans is dominated by small cities with big colleges, including:

Ithaca, N.Y.
Iowa City
Madison, Wis.
Morgantown, W.V.
and State College, Pa.

?Where sub primes are turning up is in hot markets, but also in places like Cleveland and Detroit...? ?College towns are more stable places in some respects.

Read the article in its entirety here:
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/04/weekinreview/04fess.html?ex=1352091600&en=ec83ae56e96580b2&ei=5124&partner=permalink&exprod=permalink

Get the actual facts about your specific area by speaking with a local Realtor or Agent. The sub prime for the Dane County area is at 13% while surrounding counties are in the 20-30% range.

You go to a trusted source for important information for other aspects in your life, i.e. your physician, attorney, homeroom teacher, to find out what's happening first hand. Why should one of the biggest financial decisions in your life be any different?

I'm here to help you.

Have YOU been to China?

~China Moon, RealtorŪ
McFarland, Waunakee, Westport, Middleton and Madison WI areas
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Agents, if you are to have any hope of being taken seriously STOP with the delusions of grandeur! Your "profession" doesn't even require a high school diploma. It is utterly ridiculous to pretend otherwise and align yourselves with those who spend years attaining an education!
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December 10 2007
Taking ones career seriously isn't a facade; perhaps if you placed more into a positive note versus scouring boards directing your negativity, you may boost your own moral...

Just my 2 cents...
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Financial markets may still effect you and your area to the extent that many first time buyers may not be able to get in, thus creating a kink in the buying food chain. It may not be to the same extent as bubble markets but it may stagnant the market some. Then consider how many families have lost their college funds, less kids may be able to enroll.....now that would be interesting to see and considering that many professions rising today don't necesarrily need a major education....hum.......

90% of REAs have only a high school degree.......that said, I would rather trust an economic analyst from a prestigious university or brokerage who can tell me what the market is doing and based my decision to buy on that info.
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Real estate is local, lending is national. If you're still panhandling clients with the tune of "now is the time to buy", you need to search for your soul.
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Real estate may be local, but lending standards and the national economy are not. When interest rate are higher, they are not higher in just the "hot" markets. When the national economy is soft, not only the "hot" markets are affected.

Telling people to overlook problems in the larger RE market is foolish. The problem is large enough to effect even the most insulated local markets. The effect may be less than that in the severely overheated markets of yesteryear, but buyers are wise to seek value in any market.
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"you may boost your own moral..."

My morals are fine, thanks. Or did you mean morale? If you had any financial training at all, you'd know the problems in RE are a national phenomena.
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Cabin, remember who you are talking to. Realtors are not financial advisors and they do not have the education, professional or otherwise to advise clients on investment s. Those few that do understand financial markets gained that knowledge outside of their main profession of real estate. Besides everybody know Wisconsin is colder than crap. All you have to warm you there are the warm smiles of the residents.
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"Cabin, remember who you are talking to."

Ah, Sunnyview, they never let me forget it ;)

"Besides everybody know Wisconsin is colder than crap. All you have to warm you there are the warm smiles of the residents."

Wisconsin also has one of the most successful FSBO networks in the USA.
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They have the Packers and lots of cheese...........still, you couldn't pay me enough to live up there.
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December 10 2007
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How can you take anyone seriously with name of ChinaMoon? Sounds like a Zappa. Or a brand of Heroin.
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I liked "Have YOU been to China?"
Sounds like it came from the Escort board on Craigslist.
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December 10 2007
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There is a REA here in NOVA whose moniker is "Sherry Sells Loudoun", always makes me think of Debbie does Dallas, I guess that shows how in the gutter I am.......
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December 10 2007
I've been registered here on Zillow for all of 3 hours and while not spamming about myself have received 5 hate mails, been told my profession is moot, that WI environment isn't welcoming, and that my birth name given to me by my Siksika father and Egyptian/Laotian mixed mother resembles a brand of heroin.

Very 'welcoming high school click' community people. If you do not care for me although not even trying to get to know and network with me, why even waste your time?
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China, that's the price you pay for spamming during a collapsing market.
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December 10 2007
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I for one love your name! Your profession will thrive, the NAR will see to that, and I have the most respect for anyone willing to live through your winters. You have to admit that "have you been to China" sounds a little porno, sorry but I doubt I am the only one that saw that.

Nothing wrong with being a cheerleader, but you have to keep a firm grip on the big picture out there and your local economy will be and is directly tied to the larger economy in the country, whose economy is also linked to the global economy...hip bone connected to the leg bone........too much time spent with kids, wasting away my advanced degree in history........I need to get out more and tickle the membrane, after all I am not a professional like the REAs out there who know best what I should do.
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December 10 2007
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Welcome to Zillow,

can anyone remember the last one we ran off who started the thread about Why aren't you buying?
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December 10 2007
My advice to agents is - Don't give a spiel. It doesn't work. People aren't in an upbeat mood regarding real estate. I would just join the conversations and pitch in 2cents every once in a while, listen to the perspectives and learn from them -- but I wouldn't market here or attempt to convince anyone that they should buy.

People who have made it this far on the internet have probably done homework and they know whether they should buy or wait, at least they have decided one way or another.

Just enjoy the social networking and ignore the insults. I respect everyone's opinion, even the ones that I don't agree with -- especially those, because it's more difficult to uphold a principle of open-mindedness in an environment that mostly disagrees with you than in one where everyone is on the same page with you -- and that might build a little character and a layer of tougher skin.
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Spoken like a true southern gentleman.
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December 10 2007
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You rock, Mike.
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December 10 2007
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China,

Welcome to the Z board.

Lots of good posters here that will challenge you, be a little petty, will slam you, will give you credit and will laugh with you.

Dont be offended. Lots of good posts the last few months on some delicate subjects where all have learned.

Welcome and wish you fun in your debates and postings.

OC
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December 10 2007
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"I've been registered here on Zillow for all of 3 hours and while not spamming about myself have received 5 hate mails, been told my profession is moot, that WI environment isn't welcoming, and that my birth name given to me by my Siksika father and Egyptian/Laotian mixed mother resembles a brand of heroin."

Another annoying trait....Did you read the comments? Except for your name resembling heroin (It IS a street name for it) NOTHING you wrote was accurate.
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Good post, the negaholics just need a little food here and there.
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December 10 2007
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Mike is my new favorite agent.
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December 10 2007
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<raises a Mint Julep to Mike>
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December 10 2007
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Sheesh, you guys are easy....It took me months of reading Marci and ELV!S to grudgingly admit that not all agents were pathetic :*)
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Another agent bites the dust. Drives by on Zillow posting NAR drivel and leaves bloody and bruised. next!
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That is two in one day. The comedy gods are showering us with fodder.
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Ouch!

with a salute to Mike for his wise words.
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December 10 2007
I'm blushing.
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December 10 2007
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Every thread that you look up in buyers forum, it's the same idiots who are responding w/ the same smarty ass remarks. these negaholics will never buy it's already planted in their thick skull not to buy. they've got nothing better things to do technically they are unemployed trying to socialize.
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