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Im a lil disturbed and want to warn others on this site ,I went to rent a home on your site and almost got involved in a rental scam. it all seemed pretty legit luckily i had been warned and did not fall for it .. i will try to copy and paste email to warn others if it will let me > i tried to put it in main message but it wouldn't let me
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January 12 - Jacksonville

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Hello,
Thank you very much for the reply and interest in my home. I am the owner of the home you are making inquiry of. Actually I resided in the home with my wife before and presently we had packed out of the home due to my recent transfer from our company and now situated in the united kingdom.I am a welder under ship building,I worked with Nassco ship building Company,but  I have a job appointment with BVT Surface Fleet Limited you can view site at www.bvtsurfacefleet.com .  And presently we want to give out our house for rent to a clean and tidy person.
Our home is available now for rent at $850 with a security deposit of $850 including internet and electricity. I want to let you know that money is not our problem but what we are looking for is absolute care of the home when you pack into the home. We are looking out for someone that can always keep the home clean and tidy.So please I want you to stand on the agreement you will make with us.
 We are kind and honest people,we don't like disappointing people and we don't want anyone to disappoint me.We spent a lot on our house that we want to give to you for rent.It is very close to Parks and Shopping..
What really happened is this, we are not giving the home out for rent just because of money but because of our recent work to uk.So we will solicit for your absolute maintenance of our house. We want you to treat it as yours when you move in, I hope this is very clear to you? I want you to keep it tidy all the time so that we will be glad to see it neat and clean whenever we visit the country.
I want to let you know that there is no one there in the state to show you the inside of the house as the keys and all documents of the house are here with us and we shall get it shipped to you via FEDEX  Courier Service as soon as you are ready to move in.
You can go check out the house and the neighborhood from the outside and get back to me if you really like it for more information.I will also send some of the pictures to you in my next email.The physical Address:102 Ridgewood Ct Jacksonville, NC 28546
Below are the final question that you must answer to qualify for the rent of our house.
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Below are the final question that you must answer to qualify for the rent of our house.

                                    TENANT RENT APPLICATION
FIRST NAME:__________________
MIDDLE NAME: __________________
LAST NAME:__________________
PROFESSION:________________
PHONE (____)__________ (CELL)
PHONE (____)__________ (WORK)
PHONE (____)__________ (HOME)
MARITAL STATUS:_________
KIDS_____ (YES/NO), HOW MANY________
PRESENT ADDRESS:___________________________
CITY:_______________
STATE:______________
ZIPCODE:____________
HOW LONG?___________IF RENTING
WHY ARE YOU LEAVING?______________________________
______________________________
___________
CURRENT RENT:_______
PREVIOUS ADDRESS:___________________________
CITY:________________
STATE:_______________
ZIPCODE:_____________
HOW LONG?____________ IF RENTING,HOUSE.
WHY DID YOU LEAVE?
______________________________
______________________________
___________
PREVIOUS RENT:_______
IF THIS HOUSE IS BEING GIVEN TO YOU,
HOW LONG DO YOU INTEND STAYING?____________
WHEN DO YOU INTEND MOVING IN?______________
PERSONAL REFERENCES
(LIST 3 PERSONS, OTHER THAN YOUR RELATIVES, THAT WE CAN CONTACT TO
VERIFY YOUR CHARACTER.)
FIRST PERSON
FIRST NAME:_______________
MIDDLE NAME:______________
LAST NAME:________________
RELATIONSHIP______________
PHONE (___)________________
SECOND PERSON
FIRST NAME:_______________
MIDDLE NAME:______________
LAST NAME:________________
RELATIONSHIP______________
PHONE (___)________________
THIRD PERSON
FIRST NAME:_______________
MIDDLE NAME:______________
LAST NAME:________________
RELATIONSHIP______________
PHONE (___)________________
EMERGENCY
(IN AN EMERGENCY, LIST 2 PERSONS THAT CAN BE CONTACTED STARTING WITH
NEAREST RELATIVES)

So i solicit for your absolute maintenance of our house. We want you to treat it as yours when you move in, I hope this is very clear to you? It's not all about the money but I want you to keep it tidy all the time so that we will be glad to see it neat and clean when ever we visit the country. You can stay in the house as long as you wish because we already own another house here in UK and will buy a house in USA before we return.I also want you to let me have trust in you as I always stand on my words

Thanks and God bless you.

Best Regards.
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January 12
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and yes i before i did my research i replied ;luckily my husband caught it and says lets go to a local Realtor and talk to them being it had military re locator listed as agent ( and yes the Realtor has the keys this is a scam )

but this was the reply i got :
poncepaige@yahoo.com 


We have reviewed your application and have found it satisfactory;You are approved as our tenant, we want you to always pay your rent on time. I will sign on the hard copy of the Lease Agreement paper before sending the keys & paperwork to your mailing address. Like i said in my last email, only the electricity and internet are included in the rent.

Find attached the pictures and the lease agreement, I want you to review it and if okay with you, you sign, scan and email a copy of the signed so that I will sign and include the hard copy in the package to be sent to you.

You will have to provide the security deposit so that we will secure our home by taking it off market before getting the keys shipped with the tracking details to let you know when you will be receiving the package. As soon as you get the keys you can move in and after moving in you send us the rent.

 Below is your mailing address for your confirmation so we do not make mistake when sending the package to you and that is how the name will be on the lease

( i deleted this ) it was our adress

I am giving you our house on trust and do not disappoint me and i promise you to be of good landlord to you.I shall be coming to visit you soon to check on you so that i can know how you are taking care of my house for me and if it is okay by me.

 I and my family still want you to promise that you will keep our house clean always.You can call me at +447031994373

Please,reconfirm your delivery information to avoid it getting into the wrong hands.
Delivery address:.....

 Hope to read from you soon.
Thank you and remain Blessed 
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January 12
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You need to pay Zillow a fee to advertise your home or contact a local realtor to find out how you can get it on the mls. When you do have renters, you need to do a background credit check and a criminal check. If you are going to be in the UK, I would suggest you hire a rental company to take care of the place for you, check on it, collect the monthly checks and to supervise maintenance when those issues come up.
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January 12
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Thank you for sharing - we've had a few of these scams pop up locally and the police have been pulled in.  Exterior photos are easy for a scammer to provide - whether they get them online or just snap them from the curb.  Generally online info is helpful to them because then they can seem to detail the home with authority. All very creepy. 

Anytime you are asked to send detailed info and most importantly any movement of monies, be watchful.  The best way to consider properties that are legitimately for rent is to work with those listed with a broker.  You then will also have the benefit of a professional involved in providing guidance on the lease and flow of monies.
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January 12
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Hi Carrie,
Unfortunately, this is a relatively common scam, particularly in the Jacksonville NC area (which I happen to work in).  We wish that there was a better way to stop people like this from taking advantage of the public, but until we can find a better way, sharing your experience is the best way to help others.  With Jacksonville being a military market, we are especially susceptible, because of the constant coming and going of service members.  Often times, the 'property owner' will say that they are military and that they got restationed or that they are missionaries doing a mission in another country. The advice that I give to you, that you can also give to your friends, is don't give money to someone for a house that you can't gain access to to preview.  I wrote a blog about rental scams in the Jacksonville area that I encourage you to read and share with your friends.  I'm glad that you guys were savvy enough to catch this!
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January 12
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Fortunately, Zillow has a "sticky" thread on this topic at the top of several of the discussion categories.

Unfortunately, it still doesn't stop people from "trying" to take other's money for a property they don't own, especially if they are not in the United States and not subject to U.S. laws.

This particular scam is much more likely on Craig's list than it is here, but if you see such a listing on Zillow, be sure to use the "report a problem with listing" button on the home details page so that Zillow can remove the listing.  With only 300 employees and over 100 MILLLION home details pages on Zillow, there is no way the Zillow staff can screen these problems without the help of the site visitors.  Also, the FBI is interested in reports on such activity.

Since so many of those scams are indicated as coming from London, perhaps Zillow can set up electronic filters to look for such things.  But then it will just shift to a different country.  Still, Zillow recommends never sending anyone any money and dealing with the owner or agents directly or via your agent.  It is also the reason that purchases in the U.S. are escrowed to make sure both parties are fully satisfied before any funds are property exchange hands.
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January 12
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Here's a link to the Zillow FAQ on internet scams and fraud.  (A link to this FAQ appears on every rental listing on the site automatically).

It sounds like your experience is almost verbatim from the FAQ.    Boring scammers.

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January 12
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ty for all your replies @ sharon im not trying to list my home i was warning others about this happening on here i just hate to see people taken advantage as i was :( luckily i didnt send any money 
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January 12
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OMG.. IT ALMOST HAPPENED TO ME... I GOT THE EXACT SAME E-MAIL!!! THANK YOU... I COPIED & PASTED THE NUMBER THEY HAD & UR SCAM ALERT POPED UP!!!! THANK YOU!!!!!
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January 25
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I second that! Thank you CarrieMarkle for taking the time to warn others and post the email address and contacts. Many people have ended up on Zillow from google searches and avoided other scams like this. It is a great way to help others.

@ tdelhierro I am so glad you were not scammed! There are so many out there right now.
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January 25
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glad it s helping :))))
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January 25
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Nice job ..
You took time and someone benefited..thanked you. How cool is that?
Thumbs up for you!

Internet Crime Complaint Center
"If you believe you are the victim of an Internet crime, or if you are aware of an attempted crime, you can file a complaint on our website."

Prepared by the Internet Crime Complaint Center

"Another type of scam involves real estate that is posted via classified advertisement websites. The scammer duplicates postings from legitimate real estate websites and reposts these ads, after altering them."

 The Internet Crime Complaint Center (IC3) is a partnership between the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) and the National White Collar Crime Center (NW3C), funded in part by the Bureau of Justice Assistance (BJA).



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January 25
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Hello! I was looking into your house on Rentals.com and came across the poncepaige@yahoo.com email. I'm upset that it's a scam but if this house is legitly up for rent, I am very interested. I am getting married soon. We are moving to Jacksonville because my soon-to-be husband is stationed at Camp Lejeune. We became very excited about this house when we found out about it. So hopefully, I'm talking to the right person now in order to find out more details. All of these replies have me confused and I'm not sure if the house is still on the market? So, if you can please get back to me as soon as possible, my e-mail is [deleted for privacy]. I hope to here from you soon so I can get things straightened out! :) God Bless.
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January 26
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@AmySloan If you are interested in renting the house in Jacksonville, I would follow this link here and contact the listing agent directly. That is probably your best bet. Hope it helps.
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January 26
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Okay, thanks so much!!
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January 26
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or it shows the Realtor name and i have found if  Google it  it will give me her direct email and number and i can just go from there got aother scam this time they posed as the Realtor the Realtors name was Stephanie Ford in the email they said they were the owner Ford Stephanie and sadly the letter was exactly the same except emails and names im just kinda shocked 

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January 26
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"I resided in the home with my wife before and presently we had packed out of the home due to my recent transfer from our company and now situated in the united kingdom."


DING DING DING DING ----- out of the country - how could anyone fall for this?
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January 26
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people do it was all over the news a lady in California went to jail for this exact thing :P not everyone is older and wiser alot of us are first time buyers looking for a home :P ie meeee:)






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January 26
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This almost happened to my boyfriend and I as well. Thanks to your post, we knew instantly it was a rental scam. It sounded to good to be true anyways! Thanks for sharing your experience. Thankfully we didn't send any money either!
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February 09
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I almost became victim to the same scam!  The alarms went off in my head when they went into so much detail with their email.  Thank gosh for my intuitiveness!  Mine was from j.graft181@yahoo.com (Jeannette Graft) for a property at 2105 Ashton Dr, Roswell GA, 30076.  The subdivision is extremely nice and the houses there easily rent for $1400+/month and this "owner" was only asking for $1000/month for this property and that INCLUDES utilities AND internet???  I should have KNOWN that was too good to be true!  The lesson learned here is that if something SOUNDS too good to be true....it probably IS!
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February 14
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These SOBs want to get every detail about you and then apply for credit cards using your personal info to spend!
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February 14
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Well they won't get far with my information!  My credit is JACKED! lol!
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February 15
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People are idoits!! I found the house that I thought was perfect for me. I emailed who I thought was the owner, many emails!! I even told them that I needed proof and that I wanted to see the place. They kept saying I assure you this is not a scam. I just couldn't see sending them $1600 without them even calling me. How can you judge character by an email???? When I found this post I copied it and sent an email back to the people and said does this look familiar??? LOL The nerve of some people!!!

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February 17
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So glad the hear that you were not scammed and you trusted your gut. Kudos!
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