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Does anyone feel that the real estate market in Santa Clarita will drop as much as areas such as Los Angeles, Palmdale, Bakersfield, etc?? I am pre-approved and have 20% down available for downpayment. I recently put a bid of $320,000 on a forclosed home here in Santa Clarita that was listed for $360,000. It was on the market for 50 or so days.  After over a week of waiting, the bank counter-offered at $355,000. Because the bank was unwilling to negotiate realistically, I took my deposit back. The house needs some renovating, such as paint, carpet, appliances, etc.. that I am williing to do. The house has been listed for 100 days now, and still no activity or price decreases. I am becoming frustrated and impatient. I feel that prices will continue to fall, but am don't know if the "25-30% decrease" applies to my area. I know this subject has been beaten to death, but I apprichate any advice.

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January 25 - Santa Clarita

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Hi Arnie84,

Prices will certainly continue to drop in Santa Clarita. How much $/% wise..depends on which of the MANY Santa Clarita neighborhoods you're looking. Some tracts will drop very little, some still have a way to go. I don't have details on the home you made an offer on, so I can't say exactly why it's still on the market or why there hasn't been a price decrease to an amount you find acceptable . There are numerous reasons the bank would counter you back what they did, I won't list all the reasons here. Prices in most Santa Clarita neighborhoods won't likely depreciate as much as real estate in the Antelope Valley - or in many parts of Los Angeles. People in large part, WANT to live in Santa Clarita - low crime, good schools, nice shopping, well maintained city streets, etc. All work to the advantage of real estate values holding better then less desirable nearby cities (Palmdale, Los Angeles, Bakersfield).

Like I said earlier - we will see more price decreases despite how nice Santa Clairta is. I'd move on from this home, and look for another deal since the price isn't right yet, for you. If you find another one, then you find one. Perhaps while continuing your search, the original house you made an offer on will decrease in prices while waiting. It's a foreclosure and they have to sell, but how quickly just depends on the bank and asset management.

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January 26
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The home is in Castaic, but there are regular sellers listing there house's close to foreclosed home prices just recentaly. I havevn't found another home yet as much as I like the foreclosed one. I have seen homes in better shape, but I can see a strong poteneial in this one. Thank you for the info.

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January 26
Resubmitt an offer now. Lower?
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January 26
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yea! I was thinking that. I think I am going to wait till it gets to 120 days&put a lower offer like you said. They refused paying my closings cost's last time, so I won't include that this time. Bascally it will be the same offer money wise just different in writing. There is a home near it around the corner in better shape 4 bedroom 125 sq. ft. bigger, but an 800 sq. ft. smaller lot. House Has been  on the market for  for 140 days & they just lowed their price to $219000 2 weeks ago still active.  Discription on the house says "we lost the buyer & the bank is ready to deal please make an offer" LOL! 
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January 26
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Prices in certain Santa Clarita neighborhoods are actually starting to increase, as buyers are competing for homes.

The most sought-after price range is from about $300,000-$425,000, and in this price range multiple offers are becoming rather common. Buyers in this price range are finding that they'll often need to place offers on at least a few homes before they finally get an offer accepted.

Is this true for all homes and all neighborhoods in the Santa Clarita area? No, definitely not. But for a well-priced home in a decent neighborhood, be prepared for some competition.

If you see a home that has been sitting on the market for a while, then there's nothing to lose by placing an offer that is lower than the list price. Most banks are allowing the buyer a credit towards closing costs, especially if the buyer is using FHA financing. The list price is just a starting point for negotiations, and some banks will budge more than others on this.

When you see a home that has fallen out of escrow, this could either mean that the buyers found another home they liked, couldn't qualify for their loan after all, or that there were troubles with the appraisal or inspection.

Good luck, and happy house hunting!
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February 06
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Hi,

I want you to be working with an agent who is an expert at negotiating with sellers, especially when the seller is the bank. Sometimes a bank will hire a broker to sell the property that is not a local, experienced REO broker, this can potentially hinder a buyers chance when negotiating a price that is considerably less then asking. Your offer needs to be reasonable and make sense to the bank. Days on the market may be a consideration, but there are several other factors that can help the bank see things from your point of view. A skillfull agent and negotiator is absolutely essential when expecting to get an incredible deal.
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March 02
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From the economic news I am seeing, record breaking job losses and delinquencies on mortgages, I'd take a big guess and say any stabalization anywhere in california is merely temporary. Keep your downpayment dry and wait till end of 2009. the drastic budget cuts cali is making have yet to hit the market. The inevitable foreclosures from jobs lost in late 08 and early 09 have yet to hit the market. There are buyers now, but I seriously doubt the pool of ready willing and able buyers is going to pick up not only all the inventory out there today, but all that is forseably coming due to foreclosure all year long.
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March 02
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I have a good agent I can trust! Maybe not the best agent, but trust goes further with me than experience. Whoever said prices are picking up is full of BS. Prices are droping every day. Also, My brother rents an apartment in "VALENCIA" that went into forecloser. The bank "Country Wide" said we will give you $2,000 to move out now. After a month they called&said we are backed up, and don't have the check yet. He has been living for free for 5 weeks now!!  Also, If  90% of the homes in Santa Clarita are Short Sales or REO'S driving prices down how are things going to get better soon????   The house I wanted sold for way more than I wanted to pay. Now I have  Bigger, 10 years newer, and only $40,000 more options being listed every day. Thank God I didn't get that house!!!!!!
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Sounds like you have a good handle on your market. Stick to your guns and keep looking for the one that makes sense to you. I am glad you have an agent that you can trust. That's important in my opinion.
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March 03
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Thanks for the data links you sent me Sunnyview they have been a lot of help. I am on top of the market every day, and when people were buying the smaller house's the market picked up at bit, but has since died&went down further. The homes above $400,000 are now starting to be affected, and I am going to aim higher now. I also see more homes fall out of Escrow every week.
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March 03
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Nothing can replace experience. Before buying my first home I asked a realtor with nearly 30 yrs of experience for advice. This is the advice he gave and the advice I followed. " Buy the cheapest, most run down piece of junk you can afford in the nicest neighborhood". 
Santa Clarita is one of the nicest places to live in California. I have lived here 13 years.
 I raised my children in Castaic, near Hillcrest and purchased a Huge Hasley Hills home for $616,000 seller paid $15,000 in  closing cost. It was a bank owned property that was listed for $749,000. It was previously listed for over $900,000. I closed escrow in January of 08' , it appraised for $649,000 last week.. I have purchased homes in Saugus, Newhall, Stevenson Ranch and Castaic, all were distressed sellers. In my opinion Castaic will not recover as quickly as the more desirable neighborhoods.
Purchasing real estate can be very stressful. Todays buyer is frustrated
and worried about making the right decision.First time home buyers have a golden opportunity and should sieze it when they find the perfect home that is exactly what they want. Serious buyers who are working with diligent serious agents are getting what they want when they want it. The waiting game is unnecessary. If I had waited I would have missed out on a property that is worth $49,00 more than I paid 13 months ago.
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March 03
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Well... Thanks for the info I do believe I do also believe Castaic will take longer. I am looking in Hillcrest now. Last home I was looking at was in North Bluffs (10 years older homes). I grew up in Castaic up Hasley Canyon, so I want to stay around all my family&friends. Hasley Hills is for sure nice, but they have home owners & tooooo many rules. I like to work in the garage & side yard all the time so homeowners is out for me. My agent is not pushy or demanding if I don't like the house we move on.... I find the house & he does the rest. He is also in the front office of a major business besides realstate. I have done business with him for years with no problems, so that is why I chose who I did.
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You are doing yourself an injustice by not having your agent search for properties for you, and even then that may leave you without the VIP service that I think you deserve..
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geez..... talk about desperate. you sound pathetic karen.
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If I were you, I will look at Santa Clarita city, It's center of commercial industries, north is Valencia, east is Symar, Sunland, Burbank, go to 405 south, is sherman oaks, studio city, closed to downtown of LA, and your relative.

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I think that maybe you misunderstood. The OP said that he was already working with a realtor. It also sounds like he's happy with his current representation. I am sure that the he appreciates your interest, but it seems like you may be crossing a professional line in strong arming someone else's client for showings. I would say that's not very good form, but I'm not a realtor so what do I know.
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March 03
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The question asked was open for discussion, buyers who take finding a property soley upon themseles are doing themseles an injustice.This is a complicated market. Sure success is possible, even probable. The position that this buyer is in is common. When it comes to real estate, relationships are great, contracts are greater. It is rare that a buyer is in contract with their agent, knowing this and the information posted about the experience they had and are haing, it vvas in their best interest that I ask for his business. Nothing more nothing less.
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I am so glad that someone is looking out for him the poor thing. If I misunderstood your intentions, I certainly apologize. 
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March 03
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ummm.... not sure how to respond to that except with the "internet" you can preaty much find whatever you want. Am I wrong??? The information super highway has taken over the "old school" ways to do things in my opinion. Also, I drive around the neighborhood a lot, and if you see a house that looks like crap 9 out of 10 times it is a forecloser. I see a lot of them lately not even listed yet, and some have been sitting for months.
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Hi Karen -

No need to provide your website on your comments. The users can go to your profile page to view your contact details. You may just address the question posted instead.

Thanks for your understanding.
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understood, however my profile did not have this website, and it was this URL that has the required information. I appreciate the forum and advice that is given to those who request it, but unsolicited advice is usally not followed, and it is my experience that the recipient usually wants others to mind their own.
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Give them another offer slightly lower. See what happens. You have to feel them out. Show them you are serious.
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