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The wave is cresting and you better have dropped in.

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Watching Blue Crush this weekend made think about my shore area RE in surfing terms. When you want to catch the wave (Sell) from a beach break and not wipe-out you need to paddle as fast as you can and get to the bottom of the wave. If you try to ride it out on top (chase the market) it just collapses and sends you tumbling head first into snarly whitewater and then into the shell filled bottom. In my area the wave is cresting and all the wanna be surfers (speculators) are at the top of the wave hoping it will keep getting bigger. It clearly isn't, and the end of May is the end of the selling season. Last week there were 18 sales (one of the busier weeks) and 2,000 for sale. Prices have started to dropped, but this fall will be ugly.

 

Note: These are predominately second homes, many bought on panic (never going to be able to afford a shore house if I don't do it now) and speculation. Thank goodness for this correction, I was starting to believe them until I read Aldreth.

 

 

 

 

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April 29 2008 - US

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I have more hope that in 2009 I will be able to buy a reasonably priced house because of what happened yesterday on these boards. I've only been reading these boards for a few months but to me yesterday was a sign of a seller realization that there is no chance of housing appreciation in the near future.  I think he (the troll) represents most sellers frustration and loss. I believe that it will finally go back to the way things should be. A median income family can buy a 3 bedroom 1 bath in a nice neighborhood with similiar houses for around $1000 month.  I could be wrong. I'm wrong alot.

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April 29 2008
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I think you're going to be correct on this one, jaccceee. As long as people maintain their brains and don't run off and overspend again like they did from 2000-2006, we'll be fine.

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April 29 2008
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if you left it up to the people, they would overspend

the banks won't let them overspend this time

takes a while for a big correction

but it will happen

it will go like this

people will think there is a bottom

they will start buying

then it tumbles some more

on, and on, until it bottoms

and it will bounce on the bottom for a long time

 

anyways

 

good luck

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April 29 2008

Hello Waiting4Ever,

 

Could you please elaborate more on this part, "people will think there is a bottom, they will start buying, then it tumbles some more"? What will cause it to fall even further?

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April 30 2008
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I am thinking it means...

the uniformed crowd ( blue collars, not educated, etc..) will fall for the ads like the NAR on the radio saying 'All markets are different  / its a buyers market' or their local REA saying its a buyers market. Scare tactics about rates rising or missing the window for FHA loans etc etc.. The people that fall for this are the first wave that will / are believe a bottom is here.

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April 30 2008
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look at it like a stock chart

when the tech market crashed

it didn't just crash overnight

a stock

went down a lot

went up a little bit

went down a lot

went up a little bit

etc, etc, etc

until it reached bottom

you can think of it like a ball

drop it

it bounces 5 ft

then bounces 4 ft

then bounces 3 ft

bounces a little less

bounces a little less

bounces a little less

then rolls on the floor

thats bottom

hope that helps explain a little better

thats how all markets work, from a chart perspective

up or down

always follows the same pattern

just as a bouncing ball will do

 

it would be a weird ball

if you dropped it and it just stuck to the floor

but that describes Bear Stearns over a 3 day period

so weird things do happen

 

 

anyways

 

good luck

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April 30 2008
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You all are pissing in the wind if you think you'll be able to buy at 1990 prices...The government is doing everything they can to inflate our money to justify this housing mess.

 

Move along sheep.

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April 30 2008
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tldtms

feel for ya, but not too much

ask the govt for some food stamps, while you're at it

 

anyways

 

you should have sold in 2005

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April 30 2008
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tld - tfs whatever

 

 WHo said 1990? 1999 very possible though. Suck the HEloc much during the boom? tfs.

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April 30 2008
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hassan: natural market forces (we have the highest number of vacant homes in 50 years)combined with the current tidal wave of foreclosures will cause prices to continue to drop

 

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supposedly, the human brain is very easily conditioned.  just after two or three instances of the same event occuring, the brain automatically expects the event  to happen again.   so the market crashes, comes up a little bit- people prematurely think the worst is over but then the market falls again.  this happens a couple times and even the cheeriest will expect and fear the next drop and then no one will be buying.  at all.

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and, strangely enough, if you look at all crashes, that is the exact what happens. examine the stock market crash oct 29 to 33, the nasdaq crash till now, tulips, arabian horses, south sea trading company and the list goes on and on. They drop, recover, drop again with more vengeance...

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April 30 2008
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I sold my condo in 2006 and made 60k. Then I bought a 700k house for 400k. You people are idiots and need to learn how to make money. Hint: You dont make squat posting on Zillow all day.

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April 30 2008
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1998 prices are likely in many areas.

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April 30 2008
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"Then I bought a 700k house for 400k."

 

Correction:

 

"Then I bought a 250k house for 400k."

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April 30 2008
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''"Then I bought a 250k house for 400k."'

LMFAO. These idiots need to now the hard way.

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April 30 2008
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tldtms,

 

I sold last July and made 210k.  I then rented and prices in my old neighborhood have dropped 100k.  No one's ever accused me of being a genius, but even I figured out where things were headed.  I saved a lot of money, and I don't even post on zillow all day.

 

Currently, the right play in most areas is to rent and wait.

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April 30 2008
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And they said Bubble Sitting was a foolish and risky gamble. Who's crying now.

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