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My husband and I are preparing to sell our house and buy another. Given the changes in the mortgage landscape since our last purchase, I though I should ask what might be reasonable to expect when applying for a mortgage now. We're looking in the $700k price range and would like to put 10% down. Our income is more than appropriate for that price, and we have a car payment and about 6k in additional debt. We plan to stay in the house for at least 8 years.

I'm willing to pay points to get a lower interest rate if it makes long-term sense to do that. Does anyone have some advice about what rates might be reasonable and which ones might be suspicious? I've seen rates from <6% to over 8% for 30-year jumbo fixed loans, and about the same for 5 or 7 year ARMS. I've not seen anything recently on piggy back mortgages (we did one of those once and it worked well for us). Not sure which way to turn...

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rmcdonal.  Where area are you in and how is the credit?

 

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Dallas...755
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August 25 2008
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Piggy back loans to 90% are tough to come by and rates will vary a 30 year fixed rate jumbo without points 8% is not outragoues for a fixed rate loan.  If the property is in an area that has temporary loan limits that will accomodate the loan size you are looking at 6.75% is realistic for a 30 year fixed.

 

5/1 ARM you should be able to get a rate below 6% and a 7/1 Around 6-6.125% without points is reasonable.

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Dallas is not in one of those high cost areas so you are probably looking at a fixed rate loan in the 8% range.  Look at the ARMs, like Salem those rates are right around 6%.  The trick will be to find the second to piggyback on it.  There is one guy on here who out of Texas and seems to be on the ball.  Salem, who is he I forget his name.

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Bank of Texas. He seems to have good stuff.

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Thank you very much for the guidance and suggestions. You guys are lifesavers!
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I have been away for 2 weeks and I am drawing a blank.  Martin somthing I think..

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Yeah that guy Salem....Hopefully he will check in soon to help out. Glad we could help out RM.

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He's probably still cleaning his guns this morning...

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Leave it to Martin to know Martin....

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RM,

 

Check out Martin Farris... good dude...straight answers... good lenders on board with him mortgage pro in TX..  I have 20 years experience and know who is worth their salt... He is one of them.. That and your great credit... could be a match made on eHarmortgagey.com

 

Good luck and keep rockin'.

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August 25 2008

Thanks for the kind words all.  Almost brought a tear to my eye.  Or maybe that was the gun solvent fumes. 

 

rmcdonal, have you posted a request for quote on Zillow?  If so, what is the ID? [content removed by moderator for being self promotional]. The jumbo rates are pretty high right now.  Just checking one of my lenders who may not be the most aggressive in that market the rate was 8.75% on a 30 year fixed without a discount, compared to 6% for a conforming loan amount.  I haven't been a big fan of seconds lately, but in this case it might make sense.  I would have to run the numbers.

 

Some of you guys who do a lot of jumbos care to help me out on which wholesalers have the best jumbo pricing at the moment?

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Thank you Martin and Salem for the reference and referral to Martin Farris.

DreamHome, I did post a request...ZR-XYHNPQH. Thank you for looking into this.
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As they say... Where there is a Martin... there is a way..  You are welcome and in very capable hands.

 

Keep Rockin'.

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August 25 2008

rmcdonal, I am Martin Farris.  Let me do some research and I will get back to you.  I can post some quotes, or if you will email me I will send you some GFE's for different options.  I'm pretty swamped this morning so it may be this evening before I can get you something.

 

Thanks,

Martin

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Martin,
I sent you an email. Thanks for the offer.

-r
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August 25 2008

rmcdonal

 

Seems like you are in excellent hands to me.

 

Good luck on buying your new home !!!

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MORTGAGE LENDERS - It's Time to Wake-up and Stop Dreaming about Huge Commissions!

The days of huge commissions at the cost of unsuspecting borrowers are over for mortgage lenders, now that the Lender Police™ are on patrol! However, mortgage lenders can benefit by proving to their clients that they are truly recieving the best deal possible by using any of our "Mortgage Loan Analyses™."

 

This is from the Lender Police web site. So if I understand the pitch, we should encourage our clients to pay $99 or $199 to these guys to validate what we can show them and explain to them on GFE and the closing statement? Just want to make sure I get it, and I'm particularly interested in using a service that has such a high opinion of my profession.

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August 25 2008

Bay Area.

 

Calling themselves  the 'lender police' is a highly juvienille angle to try to score more business somehow.

 

You can get dozens of GFEs for free , from various lenders to compare. You have been able to for years.

 

I think hes barking up the wrong tree. He needs a different angle.

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August 25 2008

Lender Police = SPAM = Flagged

 

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August 25 2008

Hi tricapm

 

Lets see if you win.

 

The game is this :

 

Lets see if the borrower sees your posts and emails you before they rip your post off the site ?

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Why would zillow pull it off the site?  I've submitted that same loan scenario dozens of times on this site and I've closed 5-6 of those loans with the exact rates mentioned.  You are more than welcome to email me or call me in regards to it. 

 

You may or may not be aware of the fact that other niche lenders do exist in specific states.  This particular one has a mini jumbo loan that is excellent and specific to this area. 

 

A handful of the lenders in Dallas are aware of it because it's often quoted for Dallas jumbo loans. 

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August 25 2008

Because you arent supposed to come right on a thread and suckhole for business. Its a form of 'spam'.

 

This is what the Zillow loan requests are for. So the borrower gets quotes from a variety of lenders.

 

Perhaps you '.........didnt know' ............that, but at any rate, dont do it.

 

Quote on the loan if they put up a request.

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