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What % of my bank loan can I expect to pay in pmi..0.75% or 1.5%

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doing 90% ltv, 10% down, fico 740+..I understand there is a 1.75% premium added to my loan balance if I use FHA loan.  Is it possible to have an fha 1st mtg and non-fha pmi thru a private insurer or would I need to go FHA 1st mtg and fha pmi?  Thanks for you advice, great forum here.
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I would go conventional if you have 10% down, who is your loan officer and why aren't they taking you conventional with 10% down, less fees and a better rate.
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November 08

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If you want to avoid the montly mortgage insurance on an FHA loan, you might look at a 15 year.  FHA guidelines state that if a 15 year FHA mortgage is 89.99% LTV or Lower, then there is no monthly mortgage inusrance payment.  There is, however, the Up Front Mortgage Insurance premium financed into your loan, but you will not have the monthly expense.  This is just a suggestion because not everyone can afford the 15 yr. payment.  At least take a look at a good faith estimate and compare as Clay and Steve had suggested.  Rates tend to be a lot better on the 15 year as well.  Have a reputable mortgage banker that knows FHA to help you make this decision.

Best of luck to you and I hope this sheds some light into your situation.

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Actually your monthly MI on FHA is calculated by a factor of .50 for less than 95% ltv, which is almost identical to the conventional MI factor so you will waste the 1.75% money added to your loan amt. If your lender will only give you a factor of .75 then change lenders.
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At 90% you are right in the convergence zone of which is better, FHA or conventional.  With the credit profile you mentioned I estimate that the FHA loan will be just a few dollars a month less in payment however....

The FHA loan will have the 1.75% MIP and additionally you will have a monthly premium of .55 factor as well.  The conventional version will not have an up front MIP but will have a higher monthly MI factor.  FHA is what it is.  If your profile were less than you stated then there would be other reasons to look at the FHA.  You may want to seriously look at the conventional even if it is just a few dolars a month more.  The conventional version, you can go through the process of having the MI removed once the value is below 80%  It is a process and the lender will not knock on your door, you will have to initiate it and pay the cost of an appraisal, but when done you still have the low interest rate and no MI.  With FHA you will have monthly MI for 7 to 8 years at the 90% mark.  Here is the analysis??  Do you think that the equity will go over 20% in less than when the FHA MI may drop off.  If we had that crystal ball we would all be rich.  I would bet however based on the bottoming out and rebounding of the real estate market it is a good chance.  The benefit here is that when the MI is removed, you still have the low rate and are not subject to market rates at the time.  I would bet with higher likelyhood that rates in a few years from now will be much higher than today.

No clear answer here for you Matt but hopefully food for thought to compare your options.  Have a local mortgage lender run the numbers both ways for you to compare.
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