why a higher than list price counter offer?

Profile picture for wreglechick
Here's something I don't understand. We made a bid on a home at 85% of list price and HUD comes back with a counter offer of $6800 more that the house is listed for?  What gives? I know the house has only been on the market 3 weeks but to ask more than the list price? Come on!
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Maybe this house was not listed at the appropriate price but would that be HUD's fault? Who sets the guidelines for how much a house is listed at?
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September 22 2011
The only real things you have control over in the "net" is the price offered, closing costs, and commission paid.

If those 3 factors make for the best offer, you have the best net. Simply having the best net doesn't mean an acceptance. All HUD homes I'm aware of have an appraisal done at the beginning before listing. Sometimes they list below the appraised price, and sometimes right at the list price.
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Maybe the list price of the home was too low to start with.  Have your realtor check the comps for the home. 
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September 22 2011
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If your latest counter offer cuts out the 3% closing cost, you may be close enough to their target for them to accept the offer. HUD is looking for the total value they want out of the house after paying closing, costs etc. For them, it is only about net numbers and ease of close.

On the bright side, most HUD homes I've seen are well priced and interest rates are really low so hopefully you'll get a good deal in the end.
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I am still mystified by this whole net thing.  How am I supposed to determine what their net is? Is my realtor supposed to know this? Should he be helping me to make a better offer?
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Our first offer included the 3% buyer and seller agent cost plus 3% of closing cost which I was told is standard according to our agent. Our second offer is only for 3% of buyer seller agents costs and we pick up closing costs. We'll see what they say but I don't relish the idea of giving the government more than list price on a house when they are cutting my throat in my paycheck and the market is in the toilet!
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September 22 2011
HUD probably has a current appraisal in hand and would want at least list price. The property has only been on the market for three weeks. List price offer or wait.
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You wanted closing costs and they look at net.
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What was included in your offer?   Are you asking for seller concessions (e.g. contributions to closing costs)?

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If you were asking for seller concessions of 3-6% of sale price, they  are trying to get their list price, but I would counter again, if you feel you can raise your offer, or place another higher offer, or just wait.
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