Zillow Advice: Home Improvement - To raise or not to raise.....Kitchen ceiling that is... http://www.zillow.com/advice-thread/To-raise-or-not-to-raise-Kitchen-ceiling-that-is/26875/ Zillow Advice | Zillow Real Estate This 7 ft ceiling is a soffit ... http://www.zillow.com/advice-thread/To-raise-or-not-to-raise-Kitchen-ceiling-that-is/26875/ This 7 ft ceiling is a soffit built down to save money on the cabinets.&nbsp; You have 30" upper cabinets and probably have a flush mount flourescent light in the ceiling.<br/><br/>If you have a light, I have the materials with instructions on how to give your kitchen a&nbsp; "space lift" that sells for $699 - $999.<br/><br/>If you not have a flourescent light it is east to build up into this soffit.<br/><br/>Check out what a talking about at <em>[deleted by Zillow moderator. Please see our Good Neighbor Policy for posting guidelines]</em> Thu, 20 Sep 2012 22:00:00 GMT http://www.zillow.com/advice-thread/To-raise-or-not-to-raise-Kitchen-ceiling-that-is/26875/ 2012-09-20T22:00:00Z Codes are important-when ... http://www.zillow.com/advice-thread/To-raise-or-not-to-raise-Kitchen-ceiling-that-is/26875/ <p>Codes are important-when we did the hardwood stairs and intergrated handrail we had to measure a million times to met code on the stairs and rail-</p><p>and we are not even in city limits-it is simply something a potential home buyer could run into an issue on the inspection-</p> Thu, 03 Apr 2008 00:17:00 GMT http://www.zillow.com/advice-thread/To-raise-or-not-to-raise-Kitchen-ceiling-that-is/26875/ 2008-04-03T00:17:00Z Per American Herritage Dictionary, ... http://www.zillow.com/advice-thread/To-raise-or-not-to-raise-Kitchen-ceiling-that-is/26875/ <p>Per American Herritage Dictionary, 3rd Edition, copyright 1992; "crazy" means "insane", or "foolish or impractical", or "senseless".</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>That is what I meant;&nbsp; Anyone doing a building alteration that specifically ignores the building codes and puts something at the "wrong height" must be "foolish" since it only takes a few minutes to look up the code requirements.&nbsp; And to do the work without a permit seems senseless since many building departments would make you "rip it out".</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Why would anyone spend all that time and money for construction if they know they are intentionally doing it "wrong" and that it won't meet code?&nbsp; And if they didn't know, isn't it senseless to proceed without trying to find out?</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Sure, there are 3 other "model building codes" besides the UBC (Uniform Building Code), and different parts of the country adopt slightly different standards; but 7'0" for a Kitchen ceiling any time after 1960 seems completely impractical, unless one is doing a "play house" for ones children or grandchildren, or they are specifically constructing for midgets, dwarfs, or other very short people.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p> Wed, 02 Apr 2008 23:39:00 GMT http://www.zillow.com/advice-thread/To-raise-or-not-to-raise-Kitchen-ceiling-that-is/26875/ 2008-04-02T23:39:00Z Andrew -&nbsp;If I have "too ... http://www.zillow.com/advice-thread/To-raise-or-not-to-raise-Kitchen-ceiling-that-is/26875/ <p>Andrew -</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>If I have "too much time on my hands" you can pay me $2,500 to do one hour of work on your mortgage.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>My time does not belong to you, so don't complain how I use it.</p><p>And why would a mortage broker care to read my coment about how to correct a ceiling in the first place????</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>I don't have any more time than anyone else; I'll be dead within at least the next 75 to 80 years!</p><p>&nbsp;</p> Wed, 02 Apr 2008 23:28:00 GMT http://www.zillow.com/advice-thread/To-raise-or-not-to-raise-Kitchen-ceiling-that-is/26875/ 2008-04-02T23:28:00Z I've seen a lot of kitchens ... http://www.zillow.com/advice-thread/To-raise-or-not-to-raise-Kitchen-ceiling-that-is/26875/ <p>I've seen a lot of kitchens like that... it's basically a huge soffit, and 9 times out of 10 it's pretty easy to rip them down and redo.&nbsp; If that's your case, I don't see why you couldn't hire that out for under 5K for everything.</p> Wed, 02 Apr 2008 20:54:00 GMT http://www.zillow.com/advice-thread/To-raise-or-not-to-raise-Kitchen-ceiling-that-is/26875/ 2008-04-02T20:54:00Z Pasadenan:&nbsp; Please read ... http://www.zillow.com/advice-thread/To-raise-or-not-to-raise-Kitchen-ceiling-that-is/26875/ <p>Pasadenan:&nbsp; Please read your own posts.&nbsp; Your repeated use of the word "crazy" apparently is interpreted differently by your readers than you intended.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p> Wed, 02 Apr 2008 04:43:00 GMT http://www.zillow.com/advice-thread/To-raise-or-not-to-raise-Kitchen-ceiling-that-is/26875/ 2008-04-02T04:43:00Z Pas,&nbsp;You really have ... http://www.zillow.com/advice-thread/To-raise-or-not-to-raise-Kitchen-ceiling-that-is/26875/ <p>Pas,</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>You really have way too much time on your hands....</p> Wed, 02 Apr 2008 02:33:00 GMT http://www.zillow.com/advice-thread/To-raise-or-not-to-raise-Kitchen-ceiling-that-is/26875/ 2008-04-02T02:33:00Z On the truss issue mentioned ... http://www.zillow.com/advice-thread/To-raise-or-not-to-raise-Kitchen-ceiling-that-is/26875/ <p>On the truss issue mentioned by Scott; that is the structural issue I refered to above; it is nice that he gave some examples with pictures.&nbsp; But still there is the question of the ceiling joists/attic floor joists.&nbsp; Are they even with the joists for the other rooms?&nbsp; You mentioned the vaulted ceilings in the other rooms, so it may be there are not ceiling joists but the drywall is mounted to the trusses?</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>You should be able to see from the attic.&nbsp; But if the ceiling cavity for the light fixtures in the kitchen is completely boxed in, you may see the framing for the cavity in the attic above, or you may not.&nbsp; You will not see the light fixtures.&nbsp; If you don't see the cavity box framing above, likely the original ceiling still continues straight accross the bottom of the attic floor joists.&nbsp; Of course if you have attic flooring, this may still not be vissible.&nbsp; You may need to cut a small hole in the drywall above the difusers in the light cavity wall to be able to shine a light in and peak.</p><p>&nbsp;</p> Wed, 02 Apr 2008 00:58:00 GMT http://www.zillow.com/advice-thread/To-raise-or-not-to-raise-Kitchen-ceiling-that-is/26875/ 2008-04-02T00:58:00Z wetdawgs -&nbsp;I NEVER said ... http://www.zillow.com/advice-thread/To-raise-or-not-to-raise-Kitchen-ceiling-that-is/26875/ <p>wetdawgs -</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>I <strong>NEVER</strong> said their was <strong>ANYTHING</strong> wrong with dropped ceilings; the issue is the <strong>CEILING HEIGHT!</strong></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><strong>7'0" does not meet any codes and has not for a long long time, thus it was NOT constructed that way in 1981!&nbsp; It could not have been and gotten a permit and occupancy!</strong></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Someone has modified it since!</strong></p><p>&nbsp;</p> Wed, 02 Apr 2008 00:50:00 GMT http://www.zillow.com/advice-thread/To-raise-or-not-to-raise-Kitchen-ceiling-that-is/26875/ 2008-04-02T00:50:00Z well it all depends&nbsp; ... http://www.zillow.com/advice-thread/To-raise-or-not-to-raise-Kitchen-ceiling-that-is/26875/ <p>well it all depends&nbsp; but being that you have a ranch the chances are good that you can raise the ceiling.&nbsp; there are many types of trusses&nbsp; but commonly you will have a "standard" truss.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><img imagetype="8" uploadtype="new" imageid="X1-IAzdyxxuypk781_foohr" src="http://images.zillow.com/is/image/i0/i0/i1074/ISzdyxxuyo5msj.jpg?op_sharpen=1&amp;qlt=90&amp;size=250,300"/></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;with the standard truss you would have to have one of two things&nbsp; either the trusses are set well above the lights&nbsp; which would allow you to raise the ceiling to the bottom of the truss.&nbsp;&nbsp;or you could have a modified version of a standard truss which&nbsp;means they would have built a recess into the truss to allow for lighting&nbsp; (&nbsp; unlikely)&nbsp;&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>The "scissor" truss</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><img imagetype="8" uploadtype="new" imageid="X1-IAyoq036017dsh_jgxnk" src="http://images.zillow.com/is/image/i0/i0/i1074/ISyoq035zzstcz.jpg?op_sharpen=1&amp;qlt=90&amp;size=250,300"/></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;The scissor truss would allow you to remove the ceiling and have a cathedral ceiling in your kitchen.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>The easiest way to tell&nbsp; would be to crawl up in the attic and take some measurements. You should be able to find the kitchen lighting and see how much clearance you have above the lights.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>GL</p> Tue, 01 Apr 2008 23:01:00 GMT http://www.zillow.com/advice-thread/To-raise-or-not-to-raise-Kitchen-ceiling-that-is/26875/ 2008-04-01T23:01:00Z