Zillow Advice: Home Ownership - Have you finally added a feature where you can sort by walk score? http://www.zillow.com/advice-thread/Have-you-finally-added-a-feature-where-you-can-sort-by-walk-score/514364/ Zillow Advice | Zillow Real Estate Nope; no such luck.&nbsp; ... http://www.zillow.com/advice-thread/Have-you-finally-added-a-feature-where-you-can-sort-by-walk-score/514364/ Nope; no such luck.&nbsp; Still not searchable by any method.&nbsp; The walkscore.com website does a bit better, and then you can draw your regions on Zillow.<br/> Mon, 07 Oct 2013 06:28:00 GMT http://www.zillow.com/advice-thread/Have-you-finally-added-a-feature-where-you-can-sort-by-walk-score/514364/ 2013-10-07T06:28:00Z Sorry, that is not the filed ... http://www.zillow.com/advice-thread/Have-you-finally-added-a-feature-where-you-can-sort-by-walk-score/514364/ Sorry, that is not the filed date, but the accepted date.&nbsp; The file date is 5/7/2008.&nbsp; So, even longer to process, and still no patent issued... more than 5 years later.<br/><br/>Too broad?&nbsp; The Patent Office issuing patents for overly broad applications has caused substantial problems especially with overlapping claims and frivolous lawsuits, especially for software.&nbsp; So maybe the patent office is being overly scrupulous in review of such patent applications now?<br/> Thu, 10 Oct 2013 13:10:00 GMT http://www.zillow.com/advice-thread/Have-you-finally-added-a-feature-where-you-can-sort-by-walk-score/514364/ 2013-10-10T13:10:00Z The U.S. Patent pending for ... http://www.zillow.com/advice-thread/Have-you-finally-added-a-feature-where-you-can-sort-by-walk-score/514364/ The U.S. Patent pending for walkscore:<br/><br/><a rel="nofollow" href="http://appft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&amp;Sect2=HITOFF&amp;p=1&amp;u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-bool.html&amp;r=1&amp;f=G&amp;l=50&amp;co1=AND&amp;d=PG01&amp;s1=20090089149&amp;OS=20090089149&amp;RS=20090089149">U.S. Patent Application #20090089149</a><br/><br/>filed 4/2/09.<br/><br/>(The patent review process can sometimes take a very long time).<br/> Thu, 10 Oct 2013 13:02:00 GMT http://www.zillow.com/advice-thread/Have-you-finally-added-a-feature-where-you-can-sort-by-walk-score/514364/ 2013-10-10T13:02:00Z A link to another discussion ... http://www.zillow.com/advice-thread/Have-you-finally-added-a-feature-where-you-can-sort-by-walk-score/514364/ A link to another discussion about walkability:<br/><a href="http://www.walkinginfo.org/library/details.cfm?id=4729" rel="nofollow">http://www.walkinginfo.org/library/details.cfm?id=4729</a><br/><br/>This web page has a link to the walkscoremethodology.pdf file, but the link is no longer valid.<br/><br/>Not sure of any source for the "white paper" anymore.&nbsp; Perhaps included in the patent?&nbsp; Possibly will be posted after the patent is issued?<br/><br/>One can search the uspto.gov website to access the U.S. Patent database.<br/> Thu, 10 Oct 2013 12:46:00 GMT http://www.zillow.com/advice-thread/Have-you-finally-added-a-feature-where-you-can-sort-by-walk-score/514364/ 2013-10-10T12:46:00Z You are welcome!Another major ... http://www.zillow.com/advice-thread/Have-you-finally-added-a-feature-where-you-can-sort-by-walk-score/514364/ You are welcome!<br/><br/>Another major flaw in the walkscore methodology is it doesn't even consider walkway condition, nor type of walkway, nor width of walkway, nor separation from traffic.<br/><br/>Some are all broken from tree roots.&nbsp; Some are gravel.&nbsp; Some have no trees nor other shading.&nbsp; Some have furniture and news racks and traffic controller boxes that block the walkway.&nbsp; Some have no crossing signals nor painted crosswalks at major intersections.&nbsp; Some are very steep.&nbsp; Some are less than 3 ft wide.&nbsp; Some have no curb-cuts for wheelchairs nor strollers, or even "walkers".&nbsp; Some have no walkways at all and expect you to walk in the street.<br/><br/>"Walkability" is about a lot more than just "amenities".&nbsp; Unfortunately, there is no easy place to get the additional data needed. Thu, 10 Oct 2013 12:13:00 GMT http://www.zillow.com/advice-thread/Have-you-finally-added-a-feature-where-you-can-sort-by-walk-score/514364/ 2013-10-10T12:13:00Z Thanks, user926420.&nbsp; ... http://www.zillow.com/advice-thread/Have-you-finally-added-a-feature-where-you-can-sort-by-walk-score/514364/ Thanks, user926420.&nbsp; That's a help. Thu, 10 Oct 2013 12:05:00 GMT http://www.zillow.com/advice-thread/Have-you-finally-added-a-feature-where-you-can-sort-by-walk-score/514364/ 2013-10-10T12:05:00Z The walkscoremethodology.pdf ... http://www.zillow.com/advice-thread/Have-you-finally-added-a-feature-where-you-can-sort-by-walk-score/514364/ The walkscoremethodology.pdf file has been removed from the walkscore.com website, apparently due to the "patent pending" status.<br/><br/>The closest thing on their site now is:<br/><a href="http://www.walkscore.com/methodology.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.walkscore.com/methodology.shtml</a><br/><br/>Which really gives no details.<br/><br/>Here is another excerpt from the file that used to give the details:<br/><br/>"<em>Restaurants/bars are found to be some of the most frequent walking destinations (Moudon et al. 2006, Cerin et al. 2007), so this category has a combined total weights of 3. Variety and options are important, so 10 counts of restaurants/bars are included, with the first counts receiving greater weight than the later counts to account for diminishing returns. Including 10 counts of restaurants also allows for more differentiation among high scoring locations,as 10 restaurants or bars must be very nearby to receive a perfect score.</em>" Thu, 10 Oct 2013 12:02:00 GMT http://www.zillow.com/advice-thread/Have-you-finally-added-a-feature-where-you-can-sort-by-walk-score/514364/ 2013-10-10T12:02:00Z Ahh hah !! Told you I didn't ... http://www.zillow.com/advice-thread/Have-you-finally-added-a-feature-where-you-can-sort-by-walk-score/514364/ Ahh hah !! Told you I didn't know and even what I thought was wrong...lol.<br/><br/>I can see what it is now but the term now seems mislabeled to me.<br/><br/>The normal business or whatever that are factors in this do change but what is important to people are different.<br/>I could see where some would need to know specially if they don't have cars.<br/><br/>Here cars are a must, for the most part you are given certain stores that are in walking distances but the major stores are going to be a drive. They are not in city limits.<br/><br/>Thanks for clearing that one up Pasadenan,<br/>I was beginning to wonder about humanity...well maybe I still am but.<br/><br/>Speaking of office supplies, I did an est. the other day, ran out of ink.<br/>Nearest place 30miles one way.<br/>Being in the country does have its setbacks but I love it.<br/><br/>Thanks again buddy<br/>-Joseph- Thu, 10 Oct 2013 11:58:00 GMT http://www.zillow.com/advice-thread/Have-you-finally-added-a-feature-where-you-can-sort-by-walk-score/514364/ 2013-10-10T11:58:00Z No, it has nothing to do ... http://www.zillow.com/advice-thread/Have-you-finally-added-a-feature-where-you-can-sort-by-walk-score/514364/ No, it has nothing to do with "how many walk"; it is only based on whether schools, coffee shops, books, restaurants, clothes stores, banks, parks, and grocery stores are within 1.5 miles; and it weights them based on how close they are.<br/><br/>amenity_weights ={<br/>"grocery":[3 ],<br/>"restaurants":[.75,.45,.25,.25,.225,.225,.225,.225,.2,.2 ],<br/>"shopping":[.5,.45,.4,.35,.3 ],<br/>"coffee":[1.25,.75 ],<br/>"banks":[1 ],<br/>"parks":[1 ],<br/>"schools":[1 ],<br/>"books":[1 ],<br/>"entertainment":[1 ],}<br/><br/>Full score for 1/4 mile or less<br/>polynomial function decreasing between 1/4 mile and to 1 mile.<br/>At 1 mile, the amenity is only rated 1/8 of full score.<br/>The rate of decrease is less between 1 mile and 1.5 miles.<br/>Anything above 1.5 miles contributes nothing to the score.<br/><br/>Obviously, the weighting is all wrong for the places most people go to on a regular basis.&nbsp; It doesn't even distinguish between grade level range of schools.&nbsp; And laundry and dry-cleaning was left out entirely.&nbsp; So was office supply.&nbsp; And really, they expect people to keep going to the same game arcade or movie theater with no diversity?&nbsp; And why such a high rating for coffee, especially separate from "restaurant"?<br/><br/>All Zillow does is use the walkscore API:<br/><a href="http://www.walkscore.com/professional/api.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.walkscore.com/professional/api.php</a> Thu, 10 Oct 2013 11:35:00 GMT http://www.zillow.com/advice-thread/Have-you-finally-added-a-feature-where-you-can-sort-by-walk-score/514364/ 2013-10-10T11:35:00Z Before I joined Zillow I ... http://www.zillow.com/advice-thread/Have-you-finally-added-a-feature-where-you-can-sort-by-walk-score/514364/ Before I joined Zillow I didn't know what a 'walk score' was.<br/><br/>For those of you who don't, apparently&nbsp;they are group of persons out <br/>there who monitor how many people walk in the neighborhood.<br/>I guess it is based on what?&nbsp; A 'how many of 10' type thing? Then that<br/>is the score or gives you the percentage?<br/><br/>Just wanted people to know what this was, ...we don't keep track of things<br/>like that here, if you want to walk...you just walk.<br/>-Joseph-<br/> Thu, 10 Oct 2013 09:37:00 GMT http://www.zillow.com/advice-thread/Have-you-finally-added-a-feature-where-you-can-sort-by-walk-score/514364/ 2013-10-10T09:37:00Z