Low rates are here, and have been here for a solid month now. People can obtain rates anywhere from 4.5% to 5.125% when just a short time ago we were closing loans at 6.125%+. By all accounts, these are excellent interest rates and they should actually be stimulating the real estate market NOW.
A very strange thing has happened though, and I am not sure it’s entirely healthy. People seem to be fixated on ‘waiting’ for ultra-low rates that may never appear, and in the meantime they continue to pay their 6.5% or 7% loan payment. Might 4.5% with NO points happen? Maybe. Maybe not. Tchaka Owen, who commented on another blog and writes on Active Rain brought up a very good point. He mentioned that no matter what the government does, it’s the LENDERS who control where rates go. So, while all signs are pointing to 4.25% RIGHT NOW, we are not seeing those rates on the street. Lenders don’t want to do it. Why? Because they are trying to make money, and because they are so understaffed they know they’ll get killed if they open the floodgates. If those rates aren’t there NOW, when they should be, how do we know they will be at some point this spring (or next week)?
Let’s take a look at what ‘waiting’ for the magical rate does in two examples. One, a loan amount of $150,000 and the second a much larger loan amount of $450,000- both paying 6.5% currently.
At $150,000, the payment is: $948
At $450,000, the payment is: $2844
They can both obtain 5% with no points currently- and those payments are:
On the $150,000 loan: $805 (savings- $143)
On the $450,000 loan: $2415 (savings- $429)
Let’s say they are holding out for 4.5%, what would their payments be?
The $150,000 loan would carry a payment of: $760. This would mean an additional savings of $45/month.
The $450,000 loan would carry a payment of: $2280, or an additional savings of $135.
Based on these numbers, one could argue strongly for holding out for the lowest rate on the higher mortgage amounts, but not so much on the smaller mortgages. The difference in payment, in my opinion, is not ‘earth-shattering’ enough on the $150k loan to get worked up over. And honestly, even on the $450k loan, is missing out on 4.5% reason to cry? I doubt it. Both scenarios are saving so much at 5% that holding out for a little extra may end up costing them. And how do we know where rates will bottom out? We don’t!
What happens if someone closes at 4.875%, and rates continue to fall? Are they going to beat themselves up for ‘not holding out’ long enough?
My suggestion would be to not get all wrapped up in the rate, it will drive you crazy. While I understand the want behind getting the best rate, I can’t get behind the current obsession. If you want to close, and it will save you money, the sooner you do it, the better. End of story. Rates may continue to fall, and if they do, remind yourself that you had 6.5%+/-, and you were one of the lucky ones that could refinance and get out of it. People can beat themselves up over many things, getting the lowest interest rate should not be one of those things!
2009, here we come! Hold on to your hats!
Jennifer Monastero
Citizens Community Bank
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Pk
closed my house at 5.0 % December 30, 2008
still not able to forget the fact that rates may go down
Jennifer Monastero
PK- exactly! My question to you would be- do you feel that you OVERPAID for your house? Rate means very little if you lose $50k in equity this year. THEN you can really beat yourself up!
Let’s hope that doesn’t happen!
Pk
hmm
house is in NY Queens
hope i dont loose 50K this year
Dags545
I live in California and would like to refinance ASAP but have not done so yet. It is not that I am waiting for rates to drop to 4.5% but rather there is no bank that will get into refinancing details with me without up-front payments on my part that come to an out-of-pocket expense to me of about $1000 if I do not open an account with their bank and accept the terms of there refi offer. The 1k would go to the loan application and the appraiser and the money would be returned to me when I refinance with them. This means that if I find a more competitive offer with another bank and take it, I am our the $1k.
Now, based on my preliminary discussions with the bank, they estimate the value of my condo at a little under $120,000 less than the principle owed and will not even lend to me if this “underwater” value is confirmed by their appraiser.
And to add to my misery (sorry - I am feeling rather down about this) the last time I had an appraisal the value of my condo was $75,000 over my principle. This represents a loss of almost $200,000 in about 2 years.
Do you have any suggestions for the best ways to approach a situation such as this?
Jennifer Monastero
Dags- what is your current rate? It sounds like you just need to stay put for the time being. California is one of the hardest hit states in terms of property values, and we all feel your pain. No one likes to be told they’ve lost $200k in equity in two years!
In terms of up-front fees, I do not believe in them at all. However, it is getting more and more common to utilize them as a way to prevent ’shopping’ or borrower disloyalty. Rate lock fees are going to become more popular as well. Small price to pay for ridiculously low rates.
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