Two kids at CL starting in the mid 2000. Lower grades were very good but in middle school falls apart. CL can't afford any secondary language (incl Korean) formal art music or science lab. PTA does raises lot of money to support great track and field and outdoor ed program. 6th grade math and science is taught by an instructors who my children and myself found to be an incomprehensible rambler (she is on sabbatical this year). Both 7th and 8th grade science and math are taught by two individuals who are disorganized and unable to control a class room. Efforts to work with them to publish the homework on line was dismissed. The administration could not compel them to do it even with the availability of good online HW and grade tracking tool. Use of tutors with science and math home schooling is the accepted norm which explain the test scores. My kids are not prepared for high school math/science. I am suspect of the high scores. Consider CL for grade school but be prepared to look for a middle school that provides those "extras" and a wider and more competent teacher base with a more responsive administration. In hindsight I regret staying at CL.
Lilienthal (Claire) Elementary School is a public middle school. The principal of Lilienthal (Claire) Elementary School is William Hack, whose e-mail is firstname.lastname@example.org. 674 students attend Lilienthal (Claire) Elementary School and identify as Black, non-Hispanic; Unspecified; and Multiracial. 13% of the Lilienthal (Claire) Elementary School students have "limited English proficiency." 24% of the 674 students here are paying reduced lunch prices. The student to teacher ratio at Lilienthal (Claire) Elementary School is 20:1. Marina Middle School is one of the nearest middle schools.
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Have 3 kids in the school. None have special needs. They are learning and thriving.
I was a student at Claire Lilienthal for all of the years (K-8). I really enjoyed going to the school until I hit 3rd grade. The teachers are very good at helping the kids hit the standard as well as helping students who need extra help. As a student who generally had no problem understanding the concepts they were trying to teach there was nothing to do. The teachers insist on teaching everything for the remedial students but have no experience teaching students who accel in a given class. The school tends to focus most on the students who need help along with the students who present behavioral problems. As a student who had neither issue I coasted through the system but was never challenged. That being said it is a public school and one of the better ones in San Francisco. The PTA does a tremendous job of fundraising we have many all school events and the teachers make an effort to connect to the students.
Claire Lilienthal has become part of our family for the past 10 years. The teachers and administration have both challenged and loved my children every day. No wonder it is the best school in San Francisco and one of the best in the state of California. We love Lilienthal.
I used to go to CL and i transfered to a private school which i absolutely love. This school has terrible teachers and is mostly for students that fall behind.
It's true if you have a typical kid you might be A. O.K. but if your kid excels in a particular discipline good luck getting any instruction targeted to your kid's ability. The principal seems to have mastered every way to say "your on your own" without ever saying so. Also and in the mean time be ready to empty your pockets with this that and the other thing but not instruction to your or any advanced kid. Pitiful. Teachers seem good natured and generally agreeable but for the most part their hands are tied to CLA's that shoot toward advancing API scores directed by the Principal and Vice that keep your curious kid from shooting for the stars. Unfortunate and disappointing.
This is an amazing school! Our daughter started kindergarten this fall and has been challenged and happy. She's progressing rapidly in her skills relative to preschool. Our teacher is very talented and committed emails us all the time. Lots of opportunity for parent involvement which we have been able to take advantage of. Also we enrolled 3 days in the after school program CLASP which our daughter LOVES! All of the parents I have met are highly enthusiastic about the school and committed to supporting it. Claire Lilienthal is a wonderful wonderful place!
This is a great school if you don t care if your kids learn anything. I have two kids in the school and last year they stopped teaching the minute they completed the standardized test. My daughter s class watched a Disney film while my son s class went bowling. Again at the beginning of this year my daughter s class watched another movie. CL strives for mediocrity. This appears to be a common problem with San Francisco schools where the goal is to integrate children regardless of their abilities and/or psychological needs. But with CL they fail to challenge the kids. As a result kids who may excel in one area such as math or reading are ignored. The school does have great teachers and the principle pays lip service to parents concerns. But what the school lacks is a standardized curriculum that makes sure the kids are on a path to learn the material but also a way to help both the kids who are above average as well as those who are failing behind or have psychological issues. In addition they make it difficult to participate as a volunteer unless you have experience working in a sweat shop then you can help manufacture some bedspreads for the fund raiser.
My daughter just started K and we are blown away so far. Caring committed teachers and staff highly involved parents and a warm and respectful environment. We feel very lucky to be here.
For an SF public school CL is probably better than some however is is still a SF public school they all have their unique problems. My 2 children are not pushed academically rather shuffled through because they don't cause problems. Teachers are overworked and spend much of their time with the problem students. CL is supposed to be a parent participation school but when I asked my 1st graders teacher on multiple occasions throughout the year to volunteer in the classroom I was never given the opportunity. While there are outstanding teachers in every school I would say there are teachers at CL need to be replaced. The split between campuses while nice in a sense to keep the k-2 separate creates a strange dichotomy with the school community. I would say that CL is still teaching to the test doing the best it can with the curriculum but there is enormous room for improvement.
Sounds like one parent had one bad experience and wrote an extremely harsh review. Ouch! My experience of Mr Hack is completely different He is caring and a good communicator with an open door policy. Knows all the kids by name and tries to reach out to them.
We love the school!!! Great teachers and community!! Our son is VERY happy there he has learned so much. His teachers keep him constantly challenged while fostering his self confidence and love of learning. The parent association is extremely involved and has done a tremendous job. We cannot recommend it more!!
The parents and school staff work together to make a great school for the kids.
It is a great school with a wonderful reputation in San Francisco. The principal teachers and most importantly Parents all understand and work together to ensure our children have a well-rounded education even if the government will not help pay for it. My kids have enjoyed it and I highly recommend it. Thanks Lilienthal!
We are now in our fifth year at CLS. Overall the quality of the instruction that we have experienced has been excellent. The teachers we are dedicated and honoring of each child. The students' families work hard to contribute where and what they can to help make up for what is no longer covered by the state budget from PE to the Arts. From our experience it continues to be a great public school. And of course there's always room for improvement.
As a African American Parent who's child attends Claire Lilienthal the missing piece is lack of diversity. There is only one African American staff member (teacher's aide). I would like to see more staff diversity to meet the needs of minority students. The teachers are mediocre. The teachers are very receptive to parent participation in the classroom from my experience. This was one of the reasons I choose this school due to the model of parent involvement. It appears to be a class system of the haves and have nots. The wealthy parents seem to be more respected than the regular working class parents.
I have been in this school K-8. (I'm in 8th grade now) and I would like to say how this is the best public school in the bay area for any child to go to without a doubt. The school is simply outstanding with what it does with parent involvement despite outrageous budget cuts by the state. Yes im only 13. I am applying to the top high schools with the great preparation this school has given me.
I agree with the last parent to write about Lilienthal. This school is in an extremely desirable/safe part of S.F.. I wanted my child to go there for that reason as did the other parents I came to know at Claire. Safety is a priority in S.F.. Claire was in transition the whole enrollment of my child-7 years. Going through 3/4 principals. I feel there are teachers that really care and give their best I felt overall there were more that did not. Sadly. Hooray for the parent involvement they are welcomed needed and be prepared to give! Unfortunately some teachers fought against music class and we had no art classes. No AP classes in middle school. FYI gifted students are not given more challenging work than the other students the 'Honors' that show on report cards is there if they have good grades from regular curriculum. More high school/college prep is really needed here.
I read the review posted most recently and I am assuming it is not written by a parent as it suggests. or it is written by an enthusiastic parent one who appreciates their child attending a school that is safe clean; where children are generally respected and parents are able to participate in making it a better school than were parents discouraged from helping. But the school is still in transition regarding the quality of education at the Middle School level. By contrast there are no AP offerings at the school as one would find at a significantly larger school such as A.P. Giannini or Presidio where students who have achieved a level of excellence can prepare for matriculation in a better high school in the SFUSD system. That is simply not the case with Claire Lilienthal.
Claire Lilienthal s high test scores get better each year. The teachers are magnificent and motivate the children to learn and explore through hands-on activities. Parent involvement is strong and enhances opportunities for the children and supports the teachers in daily projects. Claire Lilienthal ranks at the top with top private schools in San Francisco which is one reason the demand for a seat is high. The school offers strong academics a wonderful art curriculum over-qualified yet passionate teachers a language immersion program a variety of sports for grades K-8 AP middle school classes a safe environment and diversity. I'm glad I pressed to get my children into CLS. It was worth every ounce of stress. Good luck future parents!